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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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I know this wont apply to majority of the racers in here, but just want to see if there are any comments to those that it will apply to.

For the past 8 years we've been selling drag racing wheels, we occasionally get the request for 5x114 lug pattern. Unfortunately, the only choice we've offered is a custom Bogart or Weld wheel which usually runs about $350-500 each wheel.

At this time we only offer our VPD 13" in a 4x100 and there are no choices for an inexpensive drag wheel for 5 lug owners. We get asked every month for 5 lug applications but we had no plans until this summer to produce any of our wheels in 5 lug pattern.

We are now in the process of making a Racing wheel in a 15x7.5 with a +20 offset. This should allow drag racers to use 23x7.5x15, 23x8.5x15, 24.5x8.5x15, or even the 26x8.5x15 M&H slicks.

The main focus is to provide an affordable wheel for drag racing or even road racing use. The target price will be about $320/pair.

To the ITR or 5x114 users, let me know what you think.
Thank you.

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Default Re: 5 lug Drag wheel - 5x114.3....interest? (ExospeedAMcrx)

from me! we could even use those on our corollas/mazdas/datsuns
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Sounds good Wil.

FYI....5 x 4.5 from a domestic car is what I typically order and they normally are much cheaper and more readily available than getting an "import" rim in 5 x 114.3.

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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^correct0..... thats y we've rean welds with a 5" backspace on the 15x8
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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high offset for s2k please
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GDM S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">high offset for s2k please</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd be all over them for my 240, although I was kinda hoping to get a 15x8 wheel so I can run the 26x11.50's I need
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. Ya your right Jason, the domestic 5x4.5 is also another option. Its just we get the request once in a while and we are 50/50 in doing a wheel for the 5x114.3

For every 40 sets of 4x100 we sell, we get a request wanting a 5x114 at a decent price.

as far as the 240, we are looking into that as well. a wider drag wheel for the RWD applications.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Id be interested in a 5x100 wheel. Hard to come by those as well.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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make me a 13" 5 lug wheel.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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im all for it

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RPRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make me a 13" 5 lug wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

tell me how that can work? Will it clear your calipers? From what I hear, the calipers on the ITR are a bit bigger than the reg integra ones. and even the reg integra/civic calipers just barely clear the inside diameter of the wheel.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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I would be game for sure for a 15x7.5 5x114.3 set up. I am on rotas right now and that is about my only option
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

tell me how that can work? Will it clear your calipers? From what I hear, the calipers on the ITR are a bit bigger than the reg integra ones. and even the reg integra/civic calipers just barely clear the inside diameter of the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>Easy cowboy, information like that doesn't come cheap

Isn't that right RPRacing?
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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from what I know 13" wont clear ITR setups. Thats why theyre on 15" wheels.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what I know 13" wont clear ITR setups. Thats why theyre on 15" wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Only those who don't kno you mean because I happend to be the only person who ran 13x8 bogart dragon fly's with 5x114.3 lug pattern on my civic EG and I helped out my bud Francisco with his brake setup to save weight and give him the ability to run 13" wheels with ITR spindles. I never revealed the secret for many years but feel free to IM me and we'll chat.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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I would be intersted in some 15x7 or 7.5 if we could get some skinnys aswell...
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Victor Vaughn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Only those who don't kno you mean because I happend to be the only person who ran 13x8 bogart dragon fly's with 5x114.3 lug pattern on my civic EG and I helped out my bud Francisco with his brake setup to save weight and give him the ability to run 13" wheels with ITR spindles. I never revealed the secret for many years but feel free to IM me and we'll chat.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now you got me thinking? hmmm I am going to see what I can come up with.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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well running a 13" 5lug Bogart still brings you to the same dillema. having to get custom wheels done plus you have to make modifications. Its not a direct bolt on deal.

The point of a manufacturer making a certain wheel to fit an application is so they dont have to make any modifications themselves. You have to minimize the work that they would have to do or else you'll turn some of them off to the product.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well running a 13" 5lug Bogart still brings you to the same dillema. having to get custom wheels done plus you have to make modifications. Its not a direct bolt on deal.

The point of a manufacturer making a certain wheel to fit an application is so they dont have to make any modifications themselves. You have to minimize the work that they would have to do or else you'll turn some of them off to the product.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I beg to differ with you again, I used a set of 13x8 Bogart dragon flystars which were originally produced for the FWD dsm's with 5x114.3. There are many other wheel companies who offer the 13" wheels such as Weld Wheels, they produce the Import Magnum 5x114.3 lug pattern in 13"s



(Check out Vince Tiaga's old mazda 3 with a set)


Also the amount of work required to run 13" wheels on ITR spindles is so simple that you can run OEM honda calipers without any kind of grinding down of such except for small very cheap inexspensive mod that is key with this swap.

Those of you interested in this brake upgrade please feel free to hit me with questions I think I've held this secret long enough that I feel its time to share.

Positives about using ITR 5x114.3 spindles: Upgraded brakes More spindle strength at the wheels as compared to 4x100 pattern to 5x114.3
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Well thats cool that the ITR can fit those 13" wheels. Thanks for the info. didnt know that it could be done.
With that said, it still brings the cost to the racers into the $500-700 range per pair of wheels. Maybe we'll rethink our design and make a new 13" in a 4x100 and 5x114 instead.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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^^if you want to share, then just spill it. this sport needs more information to keep things going.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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I have half the parts he said I was going to need, just need to hit up the machine shop tomorrow and then I will get the rest done...
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^if you want to share, then just spill it. this sport needs more information to keep things going.</TD></TR></TABLE>
More like it needs innovators instead of copy cats

On the other hand though, when the time is right I will create a thread with a parts list and instructions of how-to
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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PM sent.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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How about some 15x7.5's in 4x100 for the drag radial guys!?
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