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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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I am getting the last parts of the car together and fuel is one im making sure i dont run out of.

Will -8an be enough to support a k series and gt429467r?

Should I run one weldon db2015a fuel pump or 2 aeromotive a1000 pumps?

I have a -6an fuel rail on my car now and -6an openings on my aeromotive fpr, will the -6an openings be too much of a bottle neck?
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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stay with weldon.... there are calculators on the web that will help you figure out the max fuel you could use. i think i figured at one point with 45 psi base running 45 psi(map) a weldon 2015 would keep up with 1600cc injectors at 100% duty.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Either the Weldon or twin Bosch 044's.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Magnafuel Prostar efi pump
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 A1000's? lol

What about 1 eliminator or pro series unit?</TD></TR></TABLE>laugh now
I just asked a question. I dont want problems. I asked about the a1000's because they support 800hp, is that at the crank or at the wheels how dependable do parts get using them at the absolute threshold of their limits. The eliminator or pro series could be an option, but Im asking questions.

And also what about the fuel sample fittings, anyone have any idea where to get them.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320addict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Either the Weldon or twin Bosch 044's.</TD></TR></TABLE>thats what other option i was thinking of.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philipwight &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stay with weldon.... there are calculators on the web that will help you figure out the max fuel you could use. i think i figured at one point with 45 psi base running 45 psi(map) a weldon 2015 would keep up with 1600cc injectors at 100% duty.

Philip

i got the weldon 2345</TD></TR></TABLE>i dont figure i can max out the 1600's so i should be fine with the 2015. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reaction360 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Magnafuel Prostar efi pump </TD></TR></TABLE>any more info never heard of them in the sport compact world using 45psi fuel presure, i know they are liked in the carburetor world.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Give Bret at aeromotive a call, and troll around on their new site a bit.

We mostly all use their fuel sample valve.

I'm not pushing aeromotive by any means, but the pro series works like a champ on joes car, I love my eliminator, they have great customer service and their turnaround time is on par with the best.

I haven't experienced any other pumps, so take what what I say with a grain of salt lol</TD></TR></TABLE>do they require a fuel sample valve before and after the fpr.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just one, at the reg from what I have seen.

It will specify in the rule book, but we all have them on the regulators pretty much. I dont run SFWD but have one anyway, Chad had it, and I figured what the hell lol</TD></TR></TABLE>monkey see monkey do... i have dial up so going through the aeromotive website was impossible, and getting the rule book is also next to impossible. Ill have to wait till i can get to a place that has cable internet to see what aeromotive is offering on the fuel sample vavles...do you have pics of yours?

And anyone else know if going from -8an to a -6an opening going to be too much of a bottle neck?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 04:23 AM
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weldon pumps are junk. mine failed at 40psi. mikey's keeps faililng..and ive talked with numerous other people who have had similar problems.

@ 40psi with a 2015 i was at 120% duty cycle running a little leaner than i would like. now with the aeromotive pro series pump at the same boost level im in the low 70% duty cycle range, with the car still real rich.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">weldon pumps are junk. mine failed at 40psi. mikey's keeps faililng..and ive talked with numerous other people who have had similar problems.

@ 40psi with a 2015 i was at 120% duty cycle running a little leaner than i would like. now with the aeromotive pro series pump at the same boost level im in the low 70% duty cycle range, with the car still real rich.</TD></TR></TABLE>

strange considering boostedjeff swore they were the best when he sold me my 2015. Maybe he knew about the issue and wanted to unload a pump he probably had kicking around. Anyways now im stuck with a "JUNK" pump that I paid almost 7 hundo for.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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ironically, i bought the weldon 2015 for my car because it was suposed to be one of the most reliable pumps out there. it worked great for a while, and i like the flexibility with how it could be mounted.

all of the sudden it stopped working. we have sold numerous of those pumps and havnt had any issues with any other customers....we sell a LOT of whatever i use on my car, generally thats what people want.

i guess "junk" wasnt the right word to use. we have another weldon pump we are getting ready to mount on a supra. titan said this was the set up to go with. currently the car is out of fuel, maxing out our dyno at 1200whp with 3 walbro pumps.

jeff was trying to sell his aeromotive pump for a while to get the same weldon 2015 i had, we would NEVER sell a product that we knew didnt work....this is exaclty why when new companies come out with a product and say its more reliable than their competitor....you cant really say that untill you have lots of time, milage and abuse on it. in my case it worked great for about a year and a half. the pumps are rebuildable.

we dont stock weldon pumps, and have never had any laying around that we were trying to unload. keep in mind i made 859 uncorrected whp on a dynojet with that pump, and went 160mph.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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im using the aeromotive eliminator and -10 feed lines and -6 return and at 45psi w/1600cc on e85 i made 700whp on the nose.injectrs are at 63% duty cycle.ive been using the pump for a year and a half w/ half that year as a daily driver and no issues so far(knock on wood)
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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keep in mind i made 859 uncorrected whp on a dynojet with that pump, and went 160mph.[/QUOTE]


that brings me a little relief! are the rebuilds expensive???
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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so my -8an lines are gonna be a tad to small?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Im running -8 but I might change to -10 for the hell of it. The eliminator pump has worked great for me also.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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i am having a few issues with my 2015a, but i dont know if it is an issue with my placement, or other issues. it is kinda high, i dont have enough of a vent on the tank,
im not mad at joe for telling me to buy one, i dont know if they are junk, joe made 860+- with his, the 2015a is rated at 1000 fw hp. so - 15% drive line will put that pump at its limit.

i can tell you this, jim craig from weldon is cool as s**t. he has fielded my calls 3 times and walked me through the rebuild of my pump.

my pump failed like it is designed to do. if there is a restriction and the motor keeps trying to turn a pump that is dragging, it is designed to break the coupler. it is a basic " love joy " hydraulic pump coupler. they are supposed to do that if the pump fails.

unfortunately, it is all i have to work with this year.

dont be quick to say they are junk joe he hee. although i am getting tired of arguing with mine, but for w.i.w., 710whp 490wtq -12 from the tank to pump, -10 to a filter, -8 out of the filter to the reg, -6 using sock feed as return.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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mec.pedri...please dont think we tried to sell you a pump that wouldnt work, that is the pump i used on my car and up untill maybe a month or 2 months ago i made the change to the pro series pump.

i dont think the rebuilds are expensive...i need to send mine out to be rebuilt, its sitting in a box in the shop right now.

i made 859 with -8 feed and -6 return. now with my pro series pump i run -10 feed and -10 return. im not doing the fuel system again unless i use a mechanical pump lol
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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the parts to fix mine were 52 shipped. and that was overnighted from weldon, to a dealer, downs ford, then overnighted to me.


Modified by boostedcivicsir at 11:08 AM 8/23/2007
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Weldon's are bullet-proof as long as you run the right filter before it. 45 micron stainless steel.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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had that. 15.5 afr @ 40psi was no fun though
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scott@kinsler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weldon's are bullet-proof as long as you run the right filter before it. 45 micron stainless steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would agree with this statement. I have ran a 2015, and 2345 on the street and ALOT of miles with no issues whatsoever.

This wasn't just a track only car, these pumps saw hours of continuous use
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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-10an feed and return baller...
I already have the -8an fuel lines just not sure if i want to just go ahead and do the -10an feed, then maybe ill use the -8an for return
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">had that. 15.5 afr @ 40psi was no fun though </TD></TR></TABLE>was that under boost or partial throttle?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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joe knows nothing less than full throttle.......
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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15.5 under boost yikes...must be one hell of an engine lol.
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