wondering about pherable.net
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wondering about pherable.net
i am wondering what ecu i should purchase from them.
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am wondering what ecu i should purchase from them.
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
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Ok...very simple, i ordered my ECU from them and since i didnt know the answers to those questions i left it blank like it says to do on the order form. John from phearable will configure it optimally based on what you have done to your car. Since it is pretty much stock i would order the ECU and then wait till you have the rest of your parts installed and ready for a tune, then plug in his ECU and get her tuned. You can also try calling phearable....they have the best cutomer service.
good luck
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok...very simple, i ordered my ECU from them and since i didnt know the answers to those questions i left it blank like it says to do on the order form. John from phearable will configure it optimally based on what you have done to your car. Since it is pretty much stock i would order the ECU and then wait till you have the rest of your parts installed and ready for a tune, then plug in his ECU and get her tuned. You can also try calling phearable....they have the best cutomer service.
good luck
Re: wondering about pherable.net (B16b-EJ8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am wondering what ecu i should purchase from them.
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16b-EJ8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok...very simple, i ordered my ECU from them and since i didnt know the answers to those questions i left it blank like it says to do on the order form. John from phearable will configure it optimally based on what you have done to your car. Since it is pretty much stock i would order the ECU and then wait till you have the rest of your parts installed and ready for a tune, then plug in his ECU and get her tuned. You can also try calling phearable....they have the best cutomer service.
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Listen to what B16b-EJ8 said :-)
A chipped obd1 vtec p28 ecu would be the ideal solution for your setup.
I highly recommend an aftermarket intake manifold for your setup.
Getting your self a chipped ecu is the gateway into tuning happiness :-)
If you go turbo or simply want to have your n/a setup dyno tuned, a chipped/socketed ecu will be required to do so
If you have any more questions simply contact me directly via im, email or phone.
i want to get the p28 but am unsure if i should stay with the p72.
i have a stock gsr 96 in my 96 civic. i am going obd1. currently i have intake header and 2.5 inch exhaust.i am planning on ctr cams bdl throttle body portmatching the manifold to the throttle body and then to the head. i am then upgrading the camshafts for boost and then getting to the pistons.
my plans for the car is turbo in the future but for now 175whp.
so i don't know how to order the ecu.
from them where should the rev limit be and where should the vtec engage at. and all that stuff.
plus which ecu.
thanks for any help
</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16b-EJ8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok...very simple, i ordered my ECU from them and since i didnt know the answers to those questions i left it blank like it says to do on the order form. John from phearable will configure it optimally based on what you have done to your car. Since it is pretty much stock i would order the ECU and then wait till you have the rest of your parts installed and ready for a tune, then plug in his ECU and get her tuned. You can also try calling phearable....they have the best cutomer service.
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Listen to what B16b-EJ8 said :-)
A chipped obd1 vtec p28 ecu would be the ideal solution for your setup.
I highly recommend an aftermarket intake manifold for your setup.
Getting your self a chipped ecu is the gateway into tuning happiness :-)
If you go turbo or simply want to have your n/a setup dyno tuned, a chipped/socketed ecu will be required to do so
If you have any more questions simply contact me directly via im, email or phone.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
May I suggest a better solution.
Do you have any kind of obd1 ecu?
Pherable wants 200$ for a chipped ecu right?
The cheapest route... find a obd1 ecu, p06 p08 p07 etc... what ever you can get your hands on. Mail it out, for a fraction of the cost of a new ecu I will have it chipped (socketed) fully converted to a p28. Same day I receive an ecu, I have it mailed back. the only thing that pherable will do for your bin (ROM) is put a p72 base-map onto a P30 base. reason being, editing software almost always fully supports the p30 base. they might put more timing and fuel... change vtec and rev... but that's not needed if your going to the dyno. the guy at the dyno is gonna want something more stock to work with.
if requested I will always mail two chips, a stock chip and then one that i feel is best suitable for your setup. most of the time I can go into Tuned directory's and find a tuned bin from someone that has an identical setup as you.
Do you plan on using IAB functions? they can also be added to most obd1 ecus
blah blah, care to know more please IM
Do you have any kind of obd1 ecu?
Pherable wants 200$ for a chipped ecu right?
The cheapest route... find a obd1 ecu, p06 p08 p07 etc... what ever you can get your hands on. Mail it out, for a fraction of the cost of a new ecu I will have it chipped (socketed) fully converted to a p28. Same day I receive an ecu, I have it mailed back. the only thing that pherable will do for your bin (ROM) is put a p72 base-map onto a P30 base. reason being, editing software almost always fully supports the p30 base. they might put more timing and fuel... change vtec and rev... but that's not needed if your going to the dyno. the guy at the dyno is gonna want something more stock to work with.
if requested I will always mail two chips, a stock chip and then one that i feel is best suitable for your setup. most of the time I can go into Tuned directory's and find a tuned bin from someone that has an identical setup as you.
Do you plan on using IAB functions? they can also be added to most obd1 ecus
blah blah, care to know more please IM
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (THC07)
I got my ECU from them for my '94 GSR in my EG.
I gave them my mods, told them I wanted a P28 (I don't run IAB's), but even then, they remove the IAB's from the P72, so they're pretty much the same.
Set the rev limiter to 8,200rpm's (stock GSR setting), and I had them set my VTEC engagement to 5,500, which works fine for me.
The car runs better and I haven't had a single problem.
I gave them my mods, told them I wanted a P28 (I don't run IAB's), but even then, they remove the IAB's from the P72, so they're pretty much the same.
Set the rev limiter to 8,200rpm's (stock GSR setting), and I had them set my VTEC engagement to 5,500, which works fine for me.
The car runs better and I haven't had a single problem.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (JKov240)
that's good...
im not saying they are doing anything wrong.
how much did it cost you?
could have done that same thing to a p06 for example, would cost about 50$ for the p06 and another 50 for me to prep it for you. you'd also get a stock map and a map that is close as you can get to tune, unless dyno tuned.
pherable is a great company and id never say anything bad about them. feel confident if you do choose to buy from them
im not saying they are doing anything wrong.
how much did it cost you?
could have done that same thing to a p06 for example, would cost about 50$ for the p06 and another 50 for me to prep it for you. you'd also get a stock map and a map that is close as you can get to tune, unless dyno tuned.
pherable is a great company and id never say anything bad about them. feel confident if you do choose to buy from them
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (THC07)
THANKS FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK GUYS.
i was also wondering if there is a big diffrence from staying obd2a or goind obd1.
and thc07 do u have a vouch list. and do u sell the jumper harness.
i was also wondering if there is a big diffrence from staying obd2a or goind obd1.
and thc07 do u have a vouch list. and do u sell the jumper harness.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (THC07)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's good...
im not saying they are doing anything wrong.
how much did it cost you?
could have done that same thing to a p06 for example, would cost about 50$ for the p06 and another 50 for me to prep it for you. you'd also get a stock map and a map that is close as you can get to tune, unless dyno tuned.
pherable is a great company and id never say anything bad about them. feel confident if you do choose to buy from them</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someone's business inquiry.
im not saying they are doing anything wrong.
how much did it cost you?
could have done that same thing to a p06 for example, would cost about 50$ for the p06 and another 50 for me to prep it for you. you'd also get a stock map and a map that is close as you can get to tune, unless dyno tuned.
pherable is a great company and id never say anything bad about them. feel confident if you do choose to buy from them</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someone's business inquiry.
Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THANKS FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK GUYS.
i was also wondering if there is a big diffrence from staying obd2a or goind obd1.
and thc07 do u have a vouch list. and do u sell the jumper harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The major difference is tunability.
Read over http://www.phearable.net/tech/....html
Before you go buying ecu related products/services from anyone ask your self this:
1. Is the company a reputable business.
2. Is the company going to be around to answer my technical questions in the future if I decide to change my setup or upgrade etc ?
3. What kind of tuning knowledge & experience does the company have ?
4. Is the company a Hondata, eCtune, Neptune dealer ?
We keep all products in stock & we are a <FONT COLOR="red">honda-tech sponsor.</FONT>
Modified by mtber at 12:59 PM 8/23/2007
i was also wondering if there is a big diffrence from staying obd2a or goind obd1.
and thc07 do u have a vouch list. and do u sell the jumper harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The major difference is tunability.
Read over http://www.phearable.net/tech/....html
Before you go buying ecu related products/services from anyone ask your self this:
1. Is the company a reputable business.
2. Is the company going to be around to answer my technical questions in the future if I decide to change my setup or upgrade etc ?
3. What kind of tuning knowledge & experience does the company have ?
4. Is the company a Hondata, eCtune, Neptune dealer ?
We keep all products in stock & we are a <FONT COLOR="red">honda-tech sponsor.</FONT>
Modified by mtber at 12:59 PM 8/23/2007
Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay.
and what would be the cheapest ecu to buy that can be converted to a p28</TD></TR></TABLE>
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
and what would be the cheapest ecu to buy that can be converted to a p28</TD></TR></TABLE>
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (mtber)
and for the person who said to upgrade the intake manifold.
what would be the best for boost.
i heard that boring out the gsr is a good option
what would be the best for boost.
i heard that boring out the gsr is a good option
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (mtber)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
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oh really?
don't take this the wrong way...
the OP post says " wondering about pherable.net"
Im giving him information that he should know.
this is HT, free marketing and information. Im not trying to steal your thunder. I'm just giving him a better deal, for less money
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Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someones business inquiry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
am i trying to make money? or telling him better solutions. I dint know that being a sponsor gave someone more rights.
edit: my reputation is on the line just as much as anyone else selling service or product.
Modified by THC07 at 1:53 PM 8/23/2007
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
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oh really?
don't take this the wrong way...
the OP post says " wondering about pherable.net"
Im giving him information that he should know.
this is HT, free marketing and information. Im not trying to steal your thunder. I'm just giving him a better deal, for less money
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phearable »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someones business inquiry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
am i trying to make money? or telling him better solutions. I dint know that being a sponsor gave someone more rights.
edit: my reputation is on the line just as much as anyone else selling service or product.
Modified by THC07 at 1:53 PM 8/23/2007
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (THC07)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phearable »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someone's business inquiry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't take this the wrong way, but if it was that serious of a business inquiry, he would have IM'ed you or e-mailed you or something.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a load, if you have somebody independent like THC07 do it - it's a expletive-ton cheaper. That's the best way to go IMO. Buy a P03/4/5 - whatever OBD-I ECU u can get ur hands on, have a basemap burnt onto it - CHEAP.
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You guys at phearable are ridiculously expensive, and you're like "for an extra gaziillion bucks we'll put in a CEL shift light" - meanwhile it's ONE BOX in Crome to check.
So unless he sends messages through the private channels - here, where it's in public, he has the right to tell him what's cheaper/better deal.
Don't take this the wrong way but this thread is asking about phearable.net & you are chiming in trying to make money off of someone's business inquiry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't take this the wrong way, but if it was that serious of a business inquiry, he would have IM'ed you or e-mailed you or something.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A p05 or p06. By the time you do so and pay to have it converted you are at the same price as buying one already to go from us.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a load, if you have somebody independent like THC07 do it - it's a expletive-ton cheaper. That's the best way to go IMO. Buy a P03/4/5 - whatever OBD-I ECU u can get ur hands on, have a basemap burnt onto it - CHEAP.
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You guys at phearable are ridiculously expensive, and you're like "for an extra gaziillion bucks we'll put in a CEL shift light" - meanwhile it's ONE BOX in Crome to check.
So unless he sends messages through the private channels - here, where it's in public, he has the right to tell him what's cheaper/better deal.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
Ive emailed John a few times and hes very quick to respond. I would go with a larger company/better name that you can get good customer service with something that may go wrong. Ive never dealth with either of the two, and have been referred to j-k-tuning.com. Just research and find some good service and best prices.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (madpipr)
I got mine shipped to my door with a good basemap for my application for $185...which isn't a bad price, considering it fixed all my problems and the nearest place to get a car tuned in my area by a Honda performance shop is Houston (100 miles away).
Oh yeah, the CEL shift light was free
Oh yeah, the CEL shift light was free
Re: wondering about pherable.net (JKov240)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got mine shipped to my door with a good basemap for my application for $185...which isn't a bad price, considering it fixed all my problems and the nearest place to get a car tuned in my area by a Honda performance shop is Houston (100 miles away).
Oh yeah, the CEL shift light was free
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madpipr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive emailed John a few times and hes very quick to respond. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to hear you guys are pleased with our products/services/customer service.
Oh yeah, the CEL shift light was free
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madpipr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive emailed John a few times and hes very quick to respond. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to hear you guys are pleased with our products/services/customer service.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't take this the wrong way, but if it was that serious of a business inquiry, he would have IM'ed you or e-mailed you or something.
That's a load, if you have somebody independent like THC07 do it - it's a expletive-ton cheaper. That's the best way to go IMO. Buy a P03/4/5 - whatever OBD-I ECU u can get ur hands on, have a basemap burnt onto it - CHEAP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You guys at phearable are ridiculously expensive, and you're like "for an extra gaziillion bucks we'll put in a CEL shift light" - meanwhile it's ONE BOX in Crome to check.
So unless he sends messages through the private channels - here, where it's in public, he has the right to tell him what's cheaper/better deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
You are entitled to your opinion :-)
I quote my self:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Before you go buying ecu related products/services from anyone ask your self this:
1. Is the company a reputable business.
2. Is the company going to be around to answer my technical questions in the future if I decide to change my setup or upgrade etc ?
3. What kind of tuning knowledge & experience does the company have ?
4. Is the company a Hondata, eCtune, Neptune dealer ?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyways, back on topic:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WILL A PO6 WORK</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, let me know if you have any other questions.
Don't take this the wrong way, but if it was that serious of a business inquiry, he would have IM'ed you or e-mailed you or something.
That's a load, if you have somebody independent like THC07 do it - it's a expletive-ton cheaper. That's the best way to go IMO. Buy a P03/4/5 - whatever OBD-I ECU u can get ur hands on, have a basemap burnt onto it - CHEAP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You guys at phearable are ridiculously expensive, and you're like "for an extra gaziillion bucks we'll put in a CEL shift light" - meanwhile it's ONE BOX in Crome to check.
So unless he sends messages through the private channels - here, where it's in public, he has the right to tell him what's cheaper/better deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
You are entitled to your opinion :-)
I quote my self:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Before you go buying ecu related products/services from anyone ask your self this:
1. Is the company a reputable business.
2. Is the company going to be around to answer my technical questions in the future if I decide to change my setup or upgrade etc ?
3. What kind of tuning knowledge & experience does the company have ?
4. Is the company a Hondata, eCtune, Neptune dealer ?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyways, back on topic:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WILL A PO6 WORK</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, let me know if you have any other questions.
Re: wondering about pherable.net (hatch96y7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and for the person who said to upgrade the intake manifold.
what would be the best for boost.
i heard that boring out the gsr is a good option</TD></TR></TABLE>
jg edelbrock intake manifold works well for boosted applications under a budget.
what would be the best for boost.
i heard that boring out the gsr is a good option</TD></TR></TABLE>
jg edelbrock intake manifold works well for boosted applications under a budget.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (mtber)
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What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
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Sorry but you dont know my tuning abilities, dont claim that you do.
I use a soldering station from Quakko. As if that matters.
Maybe when I have my website finnished that will make me an expert too
listen to whom ever you wish. like i said im here to help. Not over charge for a simple service
What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
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Sorry but you dont know my tuning abilities, dont claim that you do.
I use a soldering station from Quakko. As if that matters.
Maybe when I have my website finnished that will make me an expert too
listen to whom ever you wish. like i said im here to help. Not over charge for a simple service
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (mtber)
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What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
You are entitled to your opinion :-)
I quote my self:
Anyways, back on topic:
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Well thanks for giving me the right to have an opinion.
What kind of equipment? A chip burner and Crome - simple as that.
You can't try to smash a one-person enterprise b/c you have a big business. It is what it is, what are you gonna do, claim your chip burners are better than the next guy's and they provide better than 100% accuracy?
A chip burner is a chip burner, it either works, or it doesn't. He's using Crome, which is a great program and has all the abilities you can want opposed to buying a tunable ECU such as Hondata.
I have yet to see a chip burner "burn a .bin file badly" or "improperly burn a .bin file" - they either work, or they don't. No secrets there. It's exactly the same as burning a CD.
Then let's get down to the next part (the funny part)
"what kind of tuning knowledge does he have"
WHO CARES? HE'S PROVIDING BASE MAPS, NOT GUESS TUNING YOUR ECU.
The whole "you tell us what you got on your car and we burn you an accurate chip" is the biggest load of crap since your last claim (that you guys have better chip burners than the rest of the world).
The only way to accurately provide a tune is to tune it PER the car, PER the situation. You can't GUESS a tune based on his components and get the same results a dyno tune would give b/c every engine responds differently because of every little thing.
I mean seriously, they're basemaps, or they're pre-made (by Honda) programs.
I rather get a basemap from a reputable guy that'll run me a bit rich to the dyno, then tell you guys what kinda turbo I'm running, and have you kinda "guess tune the life of my engine."
I mean it's hilarious to me how many pple actually pay the price you guys charge. It's like "12 dollars extra and we'll remove the speed limiter" - meanwhile in Crome it's just a checkbox.
I gotta give you props, you guys got the biggest dick up the most peoples' asses around here. They don't realize they're getting fucked b/c you guys know how to spread the vasoline.
Dyno tuning >> Guess-work tuning ANY day.
He provides basemaps (so an OBD-I ECU can act as any other) for people so they can A) Tune their built setup better, or B) Maybe they can't find an ECU for the motor they're looking for.
I rather run a chipped ECU and have it tuned on an actual dyno, then tell people what cam and intake I'm running, and have you throw me an estimated .bin loaded on a chip that cost you 12 cents and charge me 200 bucks for it.
Assraping FTL
Modified by Syndacate at 2:40 AM 8/24/2007
What kind of equipment is a random "individual" using to chip your ecu ?
Do you really want some one who has limited tuning experience providing you with a map for you to run your vehicle on ?
You are entitled to your opinion :-)
I quote my self:
Anyways, back on topic:
Yes, let me know if you have any other questions.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well thanks for giving me the right to have an opinion.
What kind of equipment? A chip burner and Crome - simple as that.
You can't try to smash a one-person enterprise b/c you have a big business. It is what it is, what are you gonna do, claim your chip burners are better than the next guy's and they provide better than 100% accuracy?
A chip burner is a chip burner, it either works, or it doesn't. He's using Crome, which is a great program and has all the abilities you can want opposed to buying a tunable ECU such as Hondata.
I have yet to see a chip burner "burn a .bin file badly" or "improperly burn a .bin file" - they either work, or they don't. No secrets there. It's exactly the same as burning a CD.
Then let's get down to the next part (the funny part)
"what kind of tuning knowledge does he have"
WHO CARES? HE'S PROVIDING BASE MAPS, NOT GUESS TUNING YOUR ECU.
The whole "you tell us what you got on your car and we burn you an accurate chip" is the biggest load of crap since your last claim (that you guys have better chip burners than the rest of the world).
The only way to accurately provide a tune is to tune it PER the car, PER the situation. You can't GUESS a tune based on his components and get the same results a dyno tune would give b/c every engine responds differently because of every little thing.
I mean seriously, they're basemaps, or they're pre-made (by Honda) programs.
I rather get a basemap from a reputable guy that'll run me a bit rich to the dyno, then tell you guys what kinda turbo I'm running, and have you kinda "guess tune the life of my engine."
I mean it's hilarious to me how many pple actually pay the price you guys charge. It's like "12 dollars extra and we'll remove the speed limiter" - meanwhile in Crome it's just a checkbox.
I gotta give you props, you guys got the biggest dick up the most peoples' asses around here. They don't realize they're getting fucked b/c you guys know how to spread the vasoline.
Dyno tuning >> Guess-work tuning ANY day.
He provides basemaps (so an OBD-I ECU can act as any other) for people so they can A) Tune their built setup better, or B) Maybe they can't find an ECU for the motor they're looking for.
I rather run a chipped ECU and have it tuned on an actual dyno, then tell people what cam and intake I'm running, and have you throw me an estimated .bin loaded on a chip that cost you 12 cents and charge me 200 bucks for it.
Assraping FTL
Modified by Syndacate at 2:40 AM 8/24/2007
Re: wondering about pherable.net (Syndacate)
Originally Posted by Syndacate
You can't try to smash a one-person enterprise b/c you have a big business.
It is what it is, what are you gonna do, claim your chip burners are better than the next guy's and they provide better than 100% accuracy?
It is what it is, what are you gonna do, claim your chip burners are better than the next guy's and they provide better than 100% accuracy?
We are not claiming our eprom burner is better then anyone elses.
Is the basemap I send a customer going to be better then joe smoes downloaded basemap off the uberdata forums going to be better. I would be willing to bet it will.
I do agree that there is no substitute for dyno tuning a vehicle & we promote that with every product we sell to our customers.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
Well thanks for giving me the right to have an opinion.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
What kind of equipment? A chip burner and Crome - simple as that.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
He's using Crome, which is a great program and has all the abilities you can want opposed to buying a tunable ECU such as Hondata.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
I have yet to see a chip burner "burn a .bin file badly" or "improperly burn a .bin file" - they either work, or they don't. No secrets there. It's exactly the same as burning a CD.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
"what kind of tuning knowledge does he have"
WHO CARES? HE'S PROVIDING BASE MAPS, NOT GUESS TUNING YOUR ECU.
The whole "you tell us what you got on your car and we burn you an accurate chip" is the biggest load of crap since your last claim (that you guys have better chip burners than the rest of the world).
The only way to accurately provide a tune is to tune it PER the car, PER the situation. You can't GUESS a tune based on his components and get the same results a dyno tune would give b/c every engine responds differently because of every little thing.
I mean seriously, they're basemaps, or they're pre-made (by Honda) programs.
I rather get a basemap from a reputable guy that'll run me a bit rich to the dyno, then tell you guys what kinda turbo I'm running, and have you kinda "guess tune the life of my engine."
exactly the same as burning a CD.
WHO CARES? HE'S PROVIDING BASE MAPS, NOT GUESS TUNING YOUR ECU.
The whole "you tell us what you got on your car and we burn you an accurate chip" is the biggest load of crap since your last claim (that you guys have better chip burners than the rest of the world).
The only way to accurately provide a tune is to tune it PER the car, PER the situation. You can't GUESS a tune based on his components and get the same results a dyno tune would give b/c every engine responds differently because of every little thing.
I mean seriously, they're basemaps, or they're pre-made (by Honda) programs.
I rather get a basemap from a reputable guy that'll run me a bit rich to the dyno, then tell you guys what kinda turbo I'm running, and have you kinda "guess tune the life of my engine."
exactly the same as burning a CD.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
I mean it's hilarious to me how many pple actually pay the price you guys charge. It's like "12 dollars extra and we'll remove the speed limiter" - meanwhile in Crome it's just a checkbox.
I gotta give you props, you guys got the biggest dick up the most peoples' asses around here. They don't realize they're getting fucked b/c you guys know how to spread the vasoline.
I gotta give you props, you guys got the biggest dick up the most peoples' asses around here. They don't realize they're getting fucked b/c you guys know how to spread the vasoline.
Originally Posted by Syndacate
Dyno tuning >> Guess-work tuning ANY day.
He provides basemaps (so an OBD-I ECU can act as any other) for people so they can A) Tune their built setup better, or B) Maybe they can't find an ECU for the motor they're looking for.
I rather run a chipped ECU and have it tuned on an actual dyno, then tell people what cam and intake I'm running, and have you throw me an estimated .bin loaded on a chip that cost you 12 cents and charge me 200 bucks for it.
He provides basemaps (so an OBD-I ECU can act as any other) for people so they can A) Tune their built setup better, or B) Maybe they can't find an ECU for the motor they're looking for.
I rather run a chipped ECU and have it tuned on an actual dyno, then tell people what cam and intake I'm running, and have you throw me an estimated .bin loaded on a chip that cost you 12 cents and charge me 200 bucks for it.
I agree that tuning your vehicle on a dyno utilizing a chipped/socketed ecu with a proper tuning software such as crome, hondata, ectune, neptune etc is the best way to go.
Back to the original topic:
The customer's questions have been answered.
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Re: wondering about pherable.net (Syndacate)
hey hatch96y7 ...still deciding on where to get your ecu? I watched THC07 do a p06 non vtec to vtec earlier. I know he's name aint big as Pherable.net but I really think hes 110% on his work... he converted to Vtec. didnt take long and i could not even tell where he put the new little pieces... let me watch also
Re: wondering about pherable.net (crx-b16)
Vouches:
and more... http://phearable.net/testimonials.html
Modified by mtber at 4:18 AM 8/24/2007
Originally Posted by 1hgej1
My friend has a phearable P28 in his H22 hatch. Really nice ECU for the money even had 2-step already programmed. from me.
from me.
Originally Posted by Autoworks
I've used at least 8 of them in the past year, all 100% problem free. AFR's came up great on the dyno
Well worth the $.
Well worth the $.
Originally Posted by white94
I had a chipped p72 from him last year in my old civic, never had a problem and sold me one from his personal stock, great guy no worries there..
Originally Posted by BlueIntegraBoy
I hear good things about Phearable chips.
Originally Posted by numbnuts22715
I have one, havent installed it yet, I'm waiting to go home for the summer from college to install my turbo kit.
I got it because of the good reputation they have, I heard they were prety much one of the best, so that's why I went with them.
I got it because of the good reputation they have, I heard they were prety much one of the best, so that's why I went with them.
Originally Posted by Fezzie
ive bought one, it came in kinda fast and works perfect to phreable.net and mbter
to phreable.net and mbter
Originally Posted by TurboCoop
I just got mine and it was great, it only took like 3 days to get here too.
Originally Posted by maxspeedhonda
I've used them, great work.
Originally Posted by alpha
I would recommend them any day of the year. I have nothing but great things to say about John/Mtber/Phearable. I wont take up that much space though, lol. Even through problems, all caused by me, John stayed calm, polite and even offered advice.
http://www.phearable.net/
http://www.phearable.net/
Originally Posted by optikal_blitz
Hey, i'm using a Phearable.net P28:
92 Prelude Si
H22a swap
I have no complaints about the ECU, i haven't dyno'd it yet (spring..probably cause i'm away from the car now) but i had absolutely no problems with the unit. It came pretty quickly via USPS priority and was pretty clean.
Customer support (john, i believe his name is) is amazing. And the features are pretty useful (e.g. shift cel and launch control). If you ask me, for $165 bucks you really can't go too wrong.
Phearable.net gets from me. HTH
92 Prelude Si
H22a swap
I have no complaints about the ECU, i haven't dyno'd it yet (spring..probably cause i'm away from the car now) but i had absolutely no problems with the unit. It came pretty quickly via USPS priority and was pretty clean.
Customer support (john, i believe his name is) is amazing. And the features are pretty useful (e.g. shift cel and launch control). If you ask me, for $165 bucks you really can't go too wrong.
Phearable.net gets
from me. HTH
Originally Posted by hybrid_KJ
John (MTBER) does the ecu tuning for the cars built at our shop. Cars always run real well, even on base maps.
Originally Posted by scooter
phearable.net is very good. you will have no worries buying from him. good guy
scott
scott
Originally Posted by BoostedCivicSedan
I run a phearable.net chipped P06 with datalogging in my car that mtber tuned on Crome Pro... ECU looks like it came chipped... I reccomend him to everyone I know for not just ECU's, but tuning as well...
Originally Posted by drintegra
what set up, what did he do. I am getting one of phearables ecu's he's da man
Modified by mtber at 4:18 AM 8/24/2007