NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Default NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle.

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i need to solve this problam... .please help.

i had this issue for along time now and i want to solve it once and for all.
afr's are getting really rich for a second when i let off the throttle... (the more the throttle is open the more its getting richer when letting off or when giving it really little throttle)

p28 ecu with crome
dsm 450's
resistor box
stock map
tps set to .45


help.


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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

try adjusting your BOV
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

It's called throttle tip-out. Nothing you can do really. Crome doesn't let you edit it or hasn't found it.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (rdssk8rcs1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rdssk8rcs1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try adjusting your BOV</TD></TR></TABLE>

stfu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's called throttle tip-out. Nothing you can do really. Crome doesn't let you edit it or hasn't found it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
sup.

i know there isnt a tip out option....
but i also know that most pepole dont have this problam...(according to some tuners that use crome)

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

i had it on my car, never thought anything about it, never gave me any problems, sweeps to rich then lean when getting off the throttle
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (Dual Cam Racing)

It's just a little post fuel. Nothing to worry about.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (JDMisGOOD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMisGOOD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's just a little post fuel. Nothing to worry about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sup.

post fuel? r u sure?

isnt it the warmup fuel "table"?:S
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

It's "deceleration enleanment," Crome doesn't have control over it. Not much you can do about it, everyone who uses Crome will have it. I had a rich pop after every shift with Crome.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sup.

post fuel? r u sure?

isnt it the warmup fuel "table"?:S</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes i'm sure.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (JDMisGOOD)

both my cars do this.

my stock injector na b18b tuned on uberdata coupe and my neptuned lsvtec turbo 780cc injector hatch.

i think its just normal, or at least no big deal. it only annoys me right after i get done blasting on it in my turbo car. i will be hard on the brakes and the car is rich for a second still going foward kinda...
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Add me to the list of people who get a rich pop after every shift.Ever since I switched to crome I have your problem, but I live with it.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

I believe I had the same issue.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1834982

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (platinum00)

could it be somthing with the gear tables?

im using p30 code for the boost. and i copied the geat values from the p28...

could it have abything to do with this?

what does the gear table do anyway?
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (RACEPAK)

Basically they deal with fuel trim in gear. As stated, it's not something that's adjustable right now... it's TPS vector related.

Although I must say that since I retuned with the injector voltage offset tables, my rich spike after letting off is much smaller than I'd expect for 1000cc injectors.

If you're worried about the car bucking when you let off the gas, that's more related to the fuel in the 21" and up column than TPS tip-out. Tune those columns and you should have a smooth throttle on/off experience.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (raene)

Does Hondata (or anything) have control over the deceleration enleanment? I'm not looking forward to any pops when I shift..
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (thewrai6th)

I think it's being overexaggerated... my car definitely does not pop when I shift! It doesn't even hit 10s on the wideband. For a split second it'll dip to the low 11s.

I just had a quick look at the S300 software and it doesn't show it either that I could see. You can download it for yourself at hondata.com...
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (raene)

Thx, I am looking into crome/Hondata for my GSR and I hate the sound of a pop during a shift. I just checked some datalogs and I get the same thing with eManage (a rich dip to ~10.5, just after closing the throttle plate, for about .5 seconds) but I don't get any pops.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: NEED THIS SOLVED: afrs goes rich when letting off throttle. (thewrai6th)

sup and thanks for the info.

ill post my fuel table tommorow so you could see my values....

my car pops if its really getting rich. but my major problam is mpg in city/traffic.

last time i searched i found out that aem ems has that option.

also, calvin (ectune) said that he's gonna have an option to delay the phenomenon or somthing. cant remember exactly,

cui really need to solve this.
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