I went to the Appearance section, but all they are talking about is light bulbs and etc.

So, I was wondering if I could apply polish on top of carnuba wax or if I should strip the wax and start from scratch.

Basically, I did the 3 step last time...
1. clear coat cleaner
2. polish
3. wax

But, I have so many damn hairline scratches that I want to get rid of ... so...

 

bah, you ain't got nuthin

 

well, I don't typically run into pillars.

 

Wax and polish is for stunnas

Strip it and start over

Craig - Who ordered the entire zemino bro's line when he first got the car, but has not opened a single bottle yet

 

Well I got all my car cleaning information from someone who has been detailing cars for quite some time. I usually wash the car using Meguiars Gold Class car soap, then I polish it, then I wax. I use Meguiars Show Car Glaze(#7), and Meguiars Yellow Wax (#26).

When I noticed that I had some hairline scratches I purchased Meguiars Professional Scratch Remover (#9) and applied this before the polish.

In regards to which you apply first, you should always apply the polish before you put on the wax. The polish is designed to improve the finish of the coat and the wax is designed to seal in that finish as the top coat. If you apply the polish on top of the wax, then you are basically not wanting the polish to reach the paint because the wax is designed to protect the surface.

Ok, name of the wax is Meguiars High-Tech Yellow Wax (#26)


Sean, if you want me to explain the process I go through to get the car to look amazing, just message me. Its a bit long and will take roughly half a day, but the car will look awsome.




[Modified by KANJI, 2:39 PM 6/13/2002]

 

Funny that you mention all those products, 'cuz that's mostly what I use (except I substitue #26 Yellow wax for Blitz Wax.).

I guess I have to apply the scratch remover before the polish... I hate waxing the dang car.

p.s. KANJI - my gf's uncle is still looking for his receipt.

 

Listen to this guy...he knows what he's talking about

Jason-
who again, SWEARS by Meguiars products

 

as a detailer i will chime in.
the fine scratches you are experiencing is most likely the result of either your method of washing the car, or your method of drying it. do not use a sponge, sponges keep dirt on their surface, whereas wash mits acutally draw it further up into itself. but of course, still rinse out your mitt after each wash. do not use a chamois, i hate these things. people use them dozens of times before they get cleaned, so the dirt that gets picked up by them stays there, and then when you go to dry again.......scratch scratch. get a squegee for initial drying (be sure to wipe it off while drying the car), and a clean cotton towel. when you wash your "car towels" do not add fabaric softener, it won't dry worth crap. and when you dry the towels, do not use dryer sheets, they leave little particles in the towel that can scratch as well. get a decent 1 step polish and every other time you wash the car use an applicator pad (basically a really soft sponge) to apply, and a microfiber cloth to remove. i have a black car (98 240.....for sale btw), and if my method can keep a black car looking nice, it can work on anything.

 

Good advice!

If you want to take off all the old wax - use a detergent soap like Palmolive (will remove wax if you make the water hot - but don't use too much soap). Rinse rinse rinse rinse. (can't stress enough) dry and then let the car cool - apply new wax. Done.

"california" type car squeegees -->

 

I use two 100% cotton mitts with two buckets (water & soap).

I dry it off with that synthetic towel thing (forgot the name).

Maybe it's time for a new synthetic towel.. it must have trapped small dirt in 'em.

 

Awesome thread!!!

 

ok a question about terry towel drying...

If it is bad to use fabric softener or the drying sheets, how do I get the terry towel to stay soft? It seems to become harder when I just let it air dry. I have to handwash them as my mom won't let me use the washing machine to wash the dirty cloths

 

Always do your polishing & waxing in the shade and when the paint is cool to touch.

Pat - just chuck your towels in the dryer w/o the sheet. That works for me.

 

You can't apply polish after wax. Polish is designed to take a VERY fine coat from the top of the clear coat or paint, which is why polishes can remove some fine scratches. Polish does not leave back any residue. Wax is designed to leave a protective residue, so polishing a wax would be pointless. Wash, polish, then wax.... Daniel son... heh heh heh...

Clay Bar from Megiuars--->

X2

 

Polish will remove your wax, if you polish after wax you'll need to reapply your wax. I use Meguiars #7 to polish and #26 to wax. Seems to work okay for me








[Modified by SurferX, 7:42 AM 6/14/2002]

 

Just wash it in dawn, strip all your wax, and leave it

 

You guys are crazy. Here is what you "sane" ITR owners should use on your car:

Twice a year I do the following:

1.) Wash with Meguiars (sp?) Soft Cloth Wash soap
2.) Apply Meguiars Show Car Polish, let sit for at least 30 minutes so that it can soak in to the paint
3.) Apply Klasse All-In-One wax (Apply with an applicator pad. To help application use Eagle One Wet Wipe 'n Shine on the applicator pad and then put the wax on to the pad. This will make the wax goon smoothly and come off easier).

4.) This is the hardest part, and takes some time. Apply Klasse Sealent Glaze. Two coats of it. It goes on pretty easy, but buffing it off is VERY HARD. Two coats will take a good 4 hours. I suggest getting a buffing tool to take the stuff off (however, doing it by hand does give a nice workout for your arms).

I do this twice a year. Otherwise, when I wash the car about once a month, I just use normal car wash soap and a hose, and dry it off, nothing else. Car keeps the shine very well due to the sealent glaze.

This si not the be all best method; if you want the car to always be shiney, you gotta do it the hard way, but this does a pretty good job.

Now, if you don't mind washing the car every week and waxing, talk to itrsport.com or Mltdown, they are crazy, once a week, wax and polish. Damn business majors got too much time on their hands if you ask me.

 

Heres my twice a year methods for the Si and I really do use dawn

1.) Wash in dawn to strip all wax
2.) Wash in Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo
3.) Mothers Claybar
4.) 3M Perfect it no. 39009 swirl remover for dark paints (semi-abrasive)
5.) Meguiars swirl remover no. 9 (non-abrasive)
6.) 3M Imperial Glaze
7.) 3 Layers of Klasse Sealant glaze
8.) One grand Blitz wax

This process takes a whole day(including interior, ect), but is well worth it. I usually apple Blitz wax every two weeks besides this

 

Dishsoap strips the oils out of your paint, I would never let it touch my car. Polish and cleaners will remove the wax, there's no reason to damage your paint with dishsoap.

 

I have been told by professionals who have detailed for 10 years ++ that its not bad to do this a few times a year. They actually recommended it just to remove everything and restart on just the paint. It has worked well for me it makes sense to me because then you aren't claybarring over your wax


[Modified by EbboyPSi, 10:30 AM 6/14/2002]


[Modified by EbboyPSi, 10:37 AM 6/14/2002]

 

so when can you apply polsih?

 

Before a Carnauba wax. But its recommended to use a paint cleaner before polish

 

Cosworth Go HERE: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=204960

I got a lot of scratches out of my car...






- Brandon