Which Performance Rotor?
So on my civic, a 97 lx, I really dont like the brakes. I dont plan on tracking this car ever but would like some performance brakes. Is there a favored brand for the autocrossers? I would really prefer racing experience. I dont care about bling. If anything I am looking for slotted rotors only as the drilled are prone to premature cracking. Also pads? I think the manufacturers im familiar with cross into the import scene though so im not as concerend about that. Just want a reputable import company for rotors. Suggestions?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stanglover37 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So on my civic, a 97 lx, I really dont like the brakes. I dont plan on tracking this car ever but would like some performance brakes. Is there a favored brand for the autocrossers? I would really prefer racing experience. I dont care about bling. If anything I am looking for slotted rotors only as the drilled are prone to premature cracking. Also pads? I think the manufacturers im familiar with cross into the import scene though so im not as concerend about that. Just want a reputable import company for rotors. Suggestions?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rotors are a disposable item and spending big bucks on them is a waste of money. I use relatively inexpensive Brembo rotors on my CRX road race car and they work great. Others use AutoZone or other cheapies and have no problems at all with them.
Rotors are a disposable item and spending big bucks on them is a waste of money. I use relatively inexpensive Brembo rotors on my CRX road race car and they work great. Others use AutoZone or other cheapies and have no problems at all with them.
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i've been track whoring with autozone rotors since... 2001 or so. about 5-6 pairs over time. can't beat the price.
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rotors dont stop your car. brake pads stop your car. as everyone else stated, cheap autozone, pepboys, ect rotors with good pads will work just fine.
Autozone blanks here, but the brembo blanks arent much more from nopi. Both good options.
As long as the casting is good, then thats all that matters. Slotted is not going to improve your braking on the street or track at all. (except maybe in torrential rain)
Modified by Eyal 951 at 11:57 PM 8/19/2007
As long as the casting is good, then thats all that matters. Slotted is not going to improve your braking on the street or track at all. (except maybe in torrential rain)
Modified by Eyal 951 at 11:57 PM 8/19/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Rotors are a disposable </TD></TR></TABLE>
autozone and powerslots if your on that budget.
Rotors are a disposable </TD></TR></TABLE>
autozone and powerslots if your on that budget.
For brake pads, I sure do love my Carbotechs!
For the rotor, I guess it depends upon if the rotor acts as a hub and holds your wheel on.
This is what happended to mine at Mid Ohio a couple of weeks ago. Right now I'm trying do decide between Bendix (the same brand as the failed rotor at $65 each) or Brembo at $26 each. Normally I'd feel better to buy the more expensive ones thinking that you get what you pay for, but am not so sure. (The rotor did not fail due to rust. I am a bit surprised with how quickly the surface showed rust on these though as they are pretty new.)
Modified by granracing at 7:54 AM 8/22/2007
For the rotor, I guess it depends upon if the rotor acts as a hub and holds your wheel on.
This is what happended to mine at Mid Ohio a couple of weeks ago. Right now I'm trying do decide between Bendix (the same brand as the failed rotor at $65 each) or Brembo at $26 each. Normally I'd feel better to buy the more expensive ones thinking that you get what you pay for, but am not so sure. (The rotor did not fail due to rust. I am a bit surprised with how quickly the surface showed rust on these though as they are pretty new.)Modified by granracing at 7:54 AM 8/22/2007
as long as your torque your lugs correctly, you shouldn't have any problems with warping. I use autozone blanks and carbotech pads for my track car, and autozone blanks + metal masters for my street car. Been doing this for years with no problems.
AutoZone rotors are the way to go, but get the Duralast brand... stay far far away from Valucraft. The Duralast ones always held up well on the track for me, even with full race pads and a turbocharged Integra. However, the cheaper Valucraft rotors cracked all the way through from just street use... there's definitely a difference in quality.
As for "warping", it's very rare that a rotor is actually warped. 9 times out of 10, it's just pad deposits that cause uneven friction at different spots on the rotor, giving you the warped feeling when you apply the brakes. The cause of this is the pads themselves... cheaper pads have a tendancy to do this over time, and especially when you get them hot. I have only see this happen with cheap generic pads or ricer "performance" pads... it has never happened to me with anything track-worthy such as Axxis (aka PBR) Ultimates or a full race pad, and running real performance pads can even eventually clean up rotors that feel warped.
As for "warping", it's very rare that a rotor is actually warped. 9 times out of 10, it's just pad deposits that cause uneven friction at different spots on the rotor, giving you the warped feeling when you apply the brakes. The cause of this is the pads themselves... cheaper pads have a tendancy to do this over time, and especially when you get them hot. I have only see this happen with cheap generic pads or ricer "performance" pads... it has never happened to me with anything track-worthy such as Axxis (aka PBR) Ultimates or a full race pad, and running real performance pads can even eventually clean up rotors that feel warped.
I rock AZ rotors on my Sentra and have a few track days and several autoxs on them. They seem to hold up fine and are so cheap compared to the crossdrilled/slotted bling rotors.
Also have a 2 year warranty I think. So I'm thinking next spring, next season I will see if I can get new ones under warranty
Also have a 2 year warranty I think. So I'm thinking next spring, next season I will see if I can get new ones under warranty
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AutoZone rotors are the way to go, but get the Duralast brand... stay far far away from Valucraft. The Duralast ones always held up well on the track for me, even with full race pads and a turbocharged Integra. However, the cheaper Valucraft rotors cracked all the way through from just street use... there's definitely a difference in quality.
As for "warping", it's very rare that a rotor is actually warped. 9 times out of 10, it's just pad deposits that cause uneven friction at different spots on the rotor, giving you the warped feeling when you apply the brakes. The cause of this is the pads themselves... cheaper pads have a tendancy to do this over time, and especially when you get them hot. I have only see this happen with cheap generic pads or ricer "performance" pads... it has never happened to me with anything track-worthy such as Axxis (aka PBR) Ultimates or a full race pad, and running real performance pads can even eventually clean up rotors that feel warped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im rocking with the Endless VQ Series street/track pad. I doubt the pad would be the reason in this case
As for "warping", it's very rare that a rotor is actually warped. 9 times out of 10, it's just pad deposits that cause uneven friction at different spots on the rotor, giving you the warped feeling when you apply the brakes. The cause of this is the pads themselves... cheaper pads have a tendancy to do this over time, and especially when you get them hot. I have only see this happen with cheap generic pads or ricer "performance" pads... it has never happened to me with anything track-worthy such as Axxis (aka PBR) Ultimates or a full race pad, and running real performance pads can even eventually clean up rotors that feel warped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im rocking with the Endless VQ Series street/track pad. I doubt the pad would be the reason in this case
Hawk HP+'s and AutoZone Valucraft rotors. I have tried Brembo blanks, Duralast and Valucraft. Until the Valucraft give me a reason to not buy them, I do not mind spending $14.99 per rotor on the fronts and $7.99 per rotor on the rears.
actually to be totally correct, pads dont stop your car either. Tires do. You could have the fanciest pads on there, but you'll be locking up those PepBoys specials in no time
i have Rotora slotted in the front and autozone in the rear. Hawk HPS+ pads.. but i suggest using a lighter pad on the street due to the noise of the pad.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have Rotora slotted in the front and autozone in the rear. Hawk HPS+ pads.. but i suggest using a lighter pad on the street due to the noise of the pad. </TD></TR></TABLE> hps or hp+? both are great street/autocross pads. hp+ you can get away with on track. and unless you realy care about noise and dust, hp+ have no negatives



