does anyone know what is a good price for a complete b16 or h22 or gsr motors are? and which would be the best to drop on a EJ8? THANKS

 

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/ i believe these are fair prices for complete swaps

 

I would stay clear from the H22 But thats just me

 

ya H22 will make a big probelm cause they have to much tork for the civics but in a accord they are amazing. go with a GSR they are the best swap in EJ8

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lukerc45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya H22 will make a big probelm cause they have to much tork for the civics but in a accord they are amazing. go with a GSR they are the best swap in EJ8</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol what are you talking about? too much torque for civics?.....and how is the gsr the best swap for an EJ8? I think you're falling short here.

 

ok all of the H22 civic where i live and the people i now that have them said that they wish they had gotten a GSR or B16 cause H22 has to much tork for the front end of a civic no matter what kindove motor mounts you have it is just to much but that is what everybody says down hear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lukerc45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok all of the H22 civic where i live and the people i now that have them said that they wish they had gotten a GSR or B16 cause H22 has to much tork for the front end of a civic no matter what kindove motor mounts you have it is just to much but that is what everybody says down hear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I from around the same area in Washington, and I don't hear anybody around here complaining. Why would you wish for less power, and potential in a weak torqueless b16 that costs about the same???

 

H22 is what god's gift to the Honda world is .

Hmotors is good b/c you get a warranty...but damn do you pay for that warranty.

Personally I think you're better off going with like jsamotors.com or something.

 

try putting forged pistons into the H22 then come talk the sleeves dont allow it

and further more what about the linkage setup for the trans.

why do k swap level work for an engine that has very clear limitations

 

are you being serious right now? h22 too much torque for a civic? how is the front end of a civic diffgerent from the front end of a prelude? to my knowledge the are rather identical. So a turbo gsr must be way to much torque for a civic then right? or how about we go the extra distance and assume that a small block chevy is to much torque for a civic. just dont get a piece of **** falling apart car and you shouldn't have any problems with the "front end" of a civic having too much torque. h22 is the chosen one for hondas. More displacement equals more potential. Correct? Or please try to tell me otherwise

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 is what god's gift to the Honda world is .

Hmotors is good b/c you get a warranty...but damn do you pay for that warranty.

Personally I think you're better off going with like jsamotors.com or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

quoted for ignorance!

 

Hahhahahaha h22 too much torque for a Civic. Yeah I don't think it can handle the AMAZZZZZZZZZING 160 ft/lbs at the FLYWHEEL. Yeah that's just tooooooo much torque.

My friend has a H22 in his Civic EJ2 coupe. Damn that thing pulls. I/H/E h22 i hit a 13.9 @ 102mph. H22 is definately respectable. Do not under estimate them.

 

the whole complete set of b16a (obd1) should be around $2000 ~$2500 thats engine and tranny and that depends what comes with the swap but u will need axles..shift linkage..throttle cable.mounts.ecu.hanress.
for h22a should be around the same price.but for ej civic.i would suggest go with b series.. more competible..

 

K20... a2 ftw.

 

if your not looking to spend too much money, go with an h22 motor. these motors are torque monsters, "torque wins races"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 is what god's gift to the Honda world is .

Hmotors is good b/c you get a warranty...but damn do you pay for that warranty.

Personally I think you're better off going with like jsamotors.com or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You dont skimp on the most vital part for your car...HMotors is legit. I see a price of $2999 for a gsr on hmotors...looking at $3500 on jsa or whatever that place is.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try putting forged pistons into the H22 then come talk the sleeves dont allow it

and further more what about the linkage setup for the trans.

why do k swap level work for an engine that has very clear limitations </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

yea silly people dont know anything about torque. u cant have too much. like someone else said, if u slap on a turbo wouldn't that give too much torque? how is that diff than getting a motor with already that much torque? buy a b16 and spend another 2 g's to get same power as stock h22.

 

How about a B18b1? You can pick up a JDM long block for I think 700 (Hmotors) and find a B16/GSR trans in the marketplace.

And since you should have a D16y8 in your EJ8, you can sell that complete setup and make some money back. The swap all together would cost you way less than that of a B16,H22, or B18c/c1. Just a thought.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about a B18b1? You can pick up a JDM long block for I think 700 (Hmotors) and find a B16/GSR trans in the marketplace.

And since you should have a D16y8 in your EJ8, you can sell that complete setup and make some money back. The swap all together would cost you way less than that of a B16,H22, or B18c/c1. Just a thought. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you have a good point but unless you are boosting it(maybe he is, still) you should prob just get a b18 block with b16 head and b16 tranny. though that is more of a build in itself.

and to much TQ??? i have more TQ from my stock turbo D than a n/a h22a and my stock engine mounts are holding up fine.

 

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you have a good point but unless you are boosting it(maybe he is, still) you should prob just get a b18 block with b16 head and b16 tranny. though that is more of a build in itself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ Very true. I guess it all depends on how much the OP wants to spend and the direction he plans on going in the near future.

An LS-Vtec build would be a great set up if its done correctly and a B18b1-T build would also be a great set up.

You would have to save up a little more for the turbo set up, but if turbo was the future plan you will make some good numbers for less than going turbo b16/b18c etc. I was also looking into going LSV-T, but living in California I will not be able to pass @ Ref.

GL in your decision OP. My advice would be to evaluate your funds and plans. Once you figure out your plans in terms of a swap or whp goals you will see the path that will cost you the least amount of money.

 

you have to think about your future plans for your car before you swap in a new motor...but i say go h22 gobs of torque and its fun as hell to drive, plus for the money your spending for swaping in a b16 you wont feel a significant power gain over your sohc

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try putting forged pistons into the H22 then come talk the sleeves dont allow it

and further more what about the linkage setup for the trans.

why do k swap level work for an engine that has very clear limitations </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're dumb enough to try to get aftermarket pistons to seal to the stock compound cylinder walls instead of sleeving it then you obviously haven't done your research.

The work to do an H swap is nowhere near that of the K.

Also, if it's sleeved and aftermarket pistons are installed properly, its limitations aren't as low as you think.

Also, obviously if you're not happy with the H trans, get the H2B adapter setup and shutup about it.

Damn you're pathetic.

 

i am running a jdm h22 in my 92 dx hatch and i love it. you can look at my signature and see what i got. the shift linkages arent that hard to work with. the only problem i have with this swap is with the weight so far in front of the axles.

if you do the h22 swap suspension cant be too far behind.

good luck man. H Power FTW!!!

 

h2b or k 20 swap......h22 was gods old gift to honda but k20 is his new gift

 

hey thank all you guys for the knowledge it is well appreciated but im still not sold on one specific swap