HELP ASAP... car just die on me..
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HELP ASAP... car just die on me..
1995 delsol si.. all stock
well after a 2 hour drive and everything working fine.. the car just die on me.. i was about to make a U turn and all of the sudden it die.. at first i though i took the clutch out too soon.. i went ahead and try to start it up again and nothing..
- it turns over
-the battery and starter are working
-i hear the fuel pump priming
- i do have a kill switch and it works
- i checked all the fuses and engine bay and all of them are good.
-no check engine light.
please people i need some help figuring this out since im 98 miles away from home..
well after a 2 hour drive and everything working fine.. the car just die on me.. i was about to make a U turn and all of the sudden it die.. at first i though i took the clutch out too soon.. i went ahead and try to start it up again and nothing..
- it turns over
-the battery and starter are working
-i hear the fuel pump priming
- i do have a kill switch and it works
- i checked all the fuses and engine bay and all of them are good.
-no check engine light.
please people i need some help figuring this out since im 98 miles away from home..
Re: (JCracer723)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do have gas and yes the gauge works fine..
any tips on cheking the distributor? whats the proper way to check for spark?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same **** happened to me on the freeway in my CRX. Stalled while driving. Would turn over, prime pump, all power is good, just no start. I had it towed to my mechanic and the first thing they said was "ignitor". It's the little box inside the distributor. They replaced and the car is working great ever since...
It's definitely the first thing to check. See if you can borrow someone else's or something. Or buy one from the autoparts store and then take it back if it doesn't fix the problem...
any tips on cheking the distributor? whats the proper way to check for spark?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same **** happened to me on the freeway in my CRX. Stalled while driving. Would turn over, prime pump, all power is good, just no start. I had it towed to my mechanic and the first thing they said was "ignitor". It's the little box inside the distributor. They replaced and the car is working great ever since...
It's definitely the first thing to check. See if you can borrow someone else's or something. Or buy one from the autoparts store and then take it back if it doesn't fix the problem...
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Re: (94eg!)
first make sure the car is off.
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
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Re: (94eg!)
yeah i was thinkin that..
i checked for spark ( not sure if i did it right ).. i unplugged one of the spark plug connectros and hold it really close to the valve cover bolts.. and had the engine turned over and there wasnt an arc or anything like that.. not sure if it was cuz the actual connection its still hidden up on the connector a bit..
i checked for spark ( not sure if i did it right ).. i unplugged one of the spark plug connectros and hold it really close to the valve cover bolts.. and had the engine turned over and there wasnt an arc or anything like that.. not sure if it was cuz the actual connection its still hidden up on the connector a bit..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6madness »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first make sure the car is off.
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
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ok ill try that right now...
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok ill try that right now...
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Re: (JCracer723)
ok i stuck a screw driver in the connector and held it close to the valve cover bolt right where the ground wire goes... and no spark... i even had the screw diver touching the valve cover and nothing..
does this mean the whole distributor is bad or just the ignitor??
does this mean the whole distributor is bad or just the ignitor??
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Re: (JCracer723)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6madness »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first make sure the car is off.
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
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Or you can just cut like 70% of that out.
1. Pull ANY spark plug wire out and take out its corresponding spark plug.
2. Hold the spark plug wire and put the plug in it.
3. Have somebody crank over the motor.
Spark plugs are grounded to themselves so you'll see it sparking like crazy (not big uncontrolled sparks, just a little arc) even if you're just holding it in mid-air. There's absolutely no reason to get a screw driver and all that other crap.
You're basically doing the same thing it does inside the cylinder...except outside the cylinder. The spark is very noticeable in the shade - but even in bright sun it's noticeable.
I have no idea why somebody would get a screwdriver and ground it out to the chassis and everything - use a spark plug - it does everything for you...
The problem sounds like your igniter.
remove the #1 plug wire from in the spark plug hole.
then u can get a fairly long insulated screw driver and place it in the plug wire where the spark plug goes, and rest it near the head or close to something metal that the spark can jump from the metal of the screwdriver onto the metal contact.
try starting the car
if you see the spark jumping the gap between the screwdriver adn the meetal contact then your distributor works. if you dont see anything try closing the gap a little. and try again...if you still see nothing then you are screwed. go get a distributor
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or you can just cut like 70% of that out.
1. Pull ANY spark plug wire out and take out its corresponding spark plug.
2. Hold the spark plug wire and put the plug in it.
3. Have somebody crank over the motor.
Spark plugs are grounded to themselves so you'll see it sparking like crazy (not big uncontrolled sparks, just a little arc) even if you're just holding it in mid-air. There's absolutely no reason to get a screw driver and all that other crap.
You're basically doing the same thing it does inside the cylinder...except outside the cylinder. The spark is very noticeable in the shade - but even in bright sun it's noticeable.
I have no idea why somebody would get a screwdriver and ground it out to the chassis and everything - use a spark plug - it does everything for you...
The problem sounds like your igniter.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Or you can just cut like 70% of that out.
1. Pull ANY spark plug wire out and take out its corresponding spark plug.
2. Hold the spark plug wire and put the plug in it.
3. Have somebody crank over the motor.
Spark plugs are grounded to themselves so you'll see it sparking like crazy (not big uncontrolled sparks, just a little arc) even if you're just holding it in mid-air. There's absolutely no reason to get a screw driver and all that other crap.
You're basically doing the same thing it does inside the cylinder...except outside the cylinder. The spark is very noticeable in the shade - but even in bright sun it's noticeable.
I have no idea why somebody would get a screwdriver and ground it out to the chassis and everything - use a spark plug - it does everything for you...
The problem sounds like your igniter.
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i would do that but im like 100 miles away... how do i take out the igniter? cheaper than replacing the whole distributor?
Or you can just cut like 70% of that out.
1. Pull ANY spark plug wire out and take out its corresponding spark plug.
2. Hold the spark plug wire and put the plug in it.
3. Have somebody crank over the motor.
Spark plugs are grounded to themselves so you'll see it sparking like crazy (not big uncontrolled sparks, just a little arc) even if you're just holding it in mid-air. There's absolutely no reason to get a screw driver and all that other crap.
You're basically doing the same thing it does inside the cylinder...except outside the cylinder. The spark is very noticeable in the shade - but even in bright sun it's noticeable.
I have no idea why somebody would get a screwdriver and ground it out to the chassis and everything - use a spark plug - it does everything for you...
The problem sounds like your igniter.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
i would do that but im like 100 miles away... how do i take out the igniter? cheaper than replacing the whole distributor?
Re: HELP ASAP... car just die on me.. (JCracer723)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 
number 13??</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, #10.
number 13??</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, #10.
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Number 13 is your ignition coil. Number 8 is your ignitor. But there are a few other things that might cause your car not to start. Make sure that the two connections to the ignition coil are securly connected and that there are no two wires touching each other. If your ignition rotor (number 3 in the picture) is corroded or in bad condition it will cause your car not to spark. But you should change out your rotor and distributor cap anyway.
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basically just a screw driver to take apart the distributor, but you will need a 12mm socket or wrench to take the distributor out of the head (this makes working on the distributor very easy) then everything can be taken apart with a screw driver. But to make things simple, leave the spark plug wires in the distributor cap so that you do not get them mixed up after you are done with the distributor. There are three 12mm bolts that hold the distributor into the head.
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Re: (95civiccpdx)
When I had a no spark issue I checked a few things.
12v black/yellow wire (Coil Power)
10v green/yellow wire (Key source I believe)
Ground on Themo housing
You can hear the pump priming, but pull a plug and check for them to be "wet"
If those four things are there id pull your valve cover and look for a broken cam
12v black/yellow wire (Coil Power)
10v green/yellow wire (Key source I believe)
Ground on Themo housing
You can hear the pump priming, but pull a plug and check for them to be "wet"
If those four things are there id pull your valve cover and look for a broken cam
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You're trying to troubleshoot this car while it's over 100 miles away?
Just bring:
- multi-head screwdriver
- Socket set w/ ratchet (metric)
- needle nose pliers
That should be all you need.
Just bring:
- multi-head screwdriver
- Socket set w/ ratchet (metric)
- needle nose pliers
That should be all you need.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
...cheaper than replacing the whole distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should be cheaper to replace just the faulty component. But if the inside of the distributor has any red dust, it would be a better idea to replace the whole thing. Red dust would be a sign of a failing bearing which is common with long-lived Honda distributors. Distributor King sells complete units with redesigned bearings and ignition modules for a great price with a lifetime warranty. A lot of RR/AX guys recommend them...
Here is a link to their "stock" Del Sol stuff: http://search.stores.ebay.com/...ofpZ0
...cheaper than replacing the whole distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should be cheaper to replace just the faulty component. But if the inside of the distributor has any red dust, it would be a better idea to replace the whole thing. Red dust would be a sign of a failing bearing which is common with long-lived Honda distributors. Distributor King sells complete units with redesigned bearings and ignition modules for a great price with a lifetime warranty. A lot of RR/AX guys recommend them...
Here is a link to their "stock" Del Sol stuff: http://search.stores.ebay.com/...ofpZ0
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Re: (94eg!)
well im not getting no spark for sure but its not the distributor fault..
after a good sleep and talking to a friend in the morning, he mention that probably my timing belt was the issue.. at first it didnt make sence to me but after thinking about it for a bit then it made sence..
took the distributor cap off and yep... he was right.. the rotor wasnt turning.. i was like ish ....
took the valve cover off then the upper timing belt off and yep the belt was loose and it was slipping when the engine was cranked..
now the belt didnt come off the pulley nor it was torn.. so my guess is a faulty tensioner???? i gotta take off the crank pulley then the bottom cover to check everything one..
do you guys think that the tensioner went bad? after craking the engine several times.. do you guys think that the valves touched the pistons? do i gotta be worry about anything else?
thanks
after a good sleep and talking to a friend in the morning, he mention that probably my timing belt was the issue.. at first it didnt make sence to me but after thinking about it for a bit then it made sence..
took the distributor cap off and yep... he was right.. the rotor wasnt turning.. i was like
ish ....took the valve cover off then the upper timing belt off and yep the belt was loose and it was slipping when the engine was cranked..
now the belt didnt come off the pulley nor it was torn.. so my guess is a faulty tensioner???? i gotta take off the crank pulley then the bottom cover to check everything one..
do you guys think that the tensioner went bad? after craking the engine several times.. do you guys think that the valves touched the pistons? do i gotta be worry about anything else?
thanks
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Re: (93sihatchy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sihatchy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it sounds like a bad coil #13.... and
#10 is the icm</TD></TR></TABLE>
after what i posted?
might start a new thread.. this is too long.....
continutaion
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#10 is the icm</TD></TR></TABLE>
after what i posted?
might start a new thread.. this is too long.....
continutaion
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2073893
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