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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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I also posted this in the FG forum and GDD, but I figured my ITR brethren would relish the chance to make fun of me yet again.

http://videos.roadfly.com/acti...ic_Si/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0XuDIXx_5A

Tell me what you guys think. Sorry this has been so late in coming but my video guy had a lot of stuff thrown at him and then went on vacation. So now it's finally up.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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"80's Star Wars Videogame" ....

Ross = Eric Foreman from That 70s Show

Great review, and i think you did a much better job this time than the last. You are definitely more relaxed and didn't fumble anything i don't believe.

Hopefully it will sell Jess one, and become our new road trip car. I'll stick to the DC2 as my daily until something outside of my control says otherwise.


Modified by Jon D at 4:09 PM 8/15/2007
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Nice review Ross, I didn't see any fumbles either, except when you said it competes with the Integra Type R.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Nice review..If I didn't own a R, I would have fell for it!
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Only slip I heard was the second set of "camshafts" that kick in...

Good job.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Great job, Ross. I liked the fact that you brought up the absence of that damn hump. That alone would entice me if I were in the market for another four door

Seriously, great review
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Very nice review... very professional... after test driving the car, I would agree with most everything you said... however, there is still something to be said about the styling, which I am not a fan of, personally... although I think the sedan is sexier than the coupe.

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Great job Ross! My GF just bought one.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B_Something &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only slip I heard was the second set of "camshafts" that kick in...

Good job.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know it's not technically correct...but it's way easier than explaining what actually happens.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Very true.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RStoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great job Ross! My GF just bought one. </TD></TR></TABLE>


agreed.... Ross

and RStoR, what did you just buy?
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Ross's job is right up there with "The Best Jobs in the World."
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ross's job is right up there with "The Best Jobs in the World." </TD></TR></TABLE>

Har Har. I'm sure you make a lot more than me.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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But I'm not having as much fun.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Better than the M45 video.

Not sure about the "stunna" stance in the beginning. Since you are a host, what your attire consists represents the company you work for. Business casual clothing at the minimum, maybe tuck in your shirt.

The camera angle while you were driving looks uncomfortable for you too, as you are leaving your eyesight of the road. Maybe the camera should be around the passenger side air vent or pillar.

Last but not least, loosen up. I dont know what tone roadfly wants you to set but the information povided is like you are reading off of a script (which you maybe) but smile more, and be more excited about the vehicle.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure about the "stunna" stance in the beginning. Since you are a host, what your attire consists represents the company you work for. Business casual clothing at the minimum, maybe tuck in your shirt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last but not least, loosen up. I dont know what tone roadfly wants you to set but the information povided is like you are reading off of a script (which you maybe) but smile more, and be more excited about the vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A bit of a contradiction, no?

While I would normally agree with your first paragraph, he's providing a review of a car that's geared more towards the younger generation (early parenthood or even younger). Therefore, I tend to think his attire wasn't as bad of a call as you make it sound.

To each his own, but I thought Ross did a great job with it. However, I do consider him a friend so that most certainly makes me bias

IMHO, of course
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...I figured my ITR brethren would relish the chance to make fun of me yet again.
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Very well then...Yes, this new car does compare favorably with Honda/Acuras of yesteryear like the Type-R...especially in seating 5 without any obnoxious tunnel or humps...and you gotta loooooooove all those rubber nooks and crannies!

Scott, who would also like to know just how many kamshafts a K-series has...nice job though, just a little to automated in the speaking department...
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Its not bad like the way YOU make it sound. However, its not something personally I would wear making a presentation (to millions of people that have access to) and representing a company.

Some people in here sell Honda's. Do you think they sell or inform about the car sounding like that?

Dont critique my opinion. Critique his video.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont critique my opinion. Critique his video. </TD></TR></TABLE>
For real.
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It wasn't my intent to hurt anyone's feelings. I apologize.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Back in Black &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It wasn't my intent to hurt anyone's feelings. I apologize.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Apology accepted, but not needed.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Better than the M45 video.

Not sure about the "stunna" stance in the beginning. Since you are a host, what your attire consists represents the company you work for. Business casual clothing at the minimum, maybe tuck in your shirt.

The camera angle while you were driving looks uncomfortable for you too, as you are leaving your eyesight of the road. Maybe the camera should be around the passenger side air vent or pillar.

Last but not least, loosen up. I dont know what tone roadfly wants you to set but the information povided is like you are reading off of a script (which you maybe) but smile more, and be more excited about the vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let's see here.

Point 1 - I do make subtle changes in what I wear, depending on the car. Unanimously, we agreed that jeans, sneakers, and a polo would be best for the twenty-something audience for an Si video. I'm still a little young to be wearing really fancy stuff, and even people like Motorweek don't dress their guys in much other than polos and khakis (my normal attire).

Point 2 - our budget is small, so right now we are pretty much confined to a suction-cup on the passenger window. The Top Gear-style stuff you see is a function of much bigger budgets, in both money and time. I have to have my video guy in the car with me, whereas Richard Hammond or Jeremy Clarkson can afford to have a tiny camera affixed to a vent by a team of production assistants and just run it for hours until they get one or two good takes.

Point 3 - I do agree that my on-camera mannerisms need some work. However, it's a delicate balance. Here is an example of what happens when you go too unscripted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_lnYYopPqE

That's my boss, reviewing the new Volvo S80. He may have better, more relaxed on-screen presence, but notice how long the video is, compared with how much information you actually get. I'm a journalist by training, so I try to get a lot of information into a small space. And the only way to do that is to write a script and stick to it, more or less. Unless you know what you're going to say within some very defined limits, you start to ramble and the shoots start to drag on. right now we're at a point where we knock out a shoot in 4 hours flat. Considering our small budget, it needs to be that way for the time being.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Ross... you did fine, and all of your points made are legit. Great job....and remember you can only continue to get better with more experience
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ross... you did fine, and all of your points made are legit. Great job....and remember you can only continue to get better with more experience </TD></TR></TABLE>
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