ls skunk 2 manifold on b16 head
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Re: ls skunk 2 manifold on b16 head (mmuller)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it wont fit, you can make it fit. you dont want to though</TD></TR></TABLE>.
I did not know this, I thought that almost all b-series manifolds, aftermarket or not, could interchange? Learn new things everyday I suppose.
I did not know this, I thought that almost all b-series manifolds, aftermarket or not, could interchange? Learn new things everyday I suppose.
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Re: ls skunk 2 manifold on b16 head (NAmodified)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAmodified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y wont it fit? it looks exactly the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would like to know as well.
I would like to know as well.
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The shape between an LS and Si Skunk2 intake mani might be the same but the bolt holes don't match up. You can make it fit if you drill new holes (like how people put ITR manis on GSRs or GSR Jackson Racing superchargers on LSs) but there's no point if you can just buy a Skunk2 mani that'll fit (unless you got one free or something).
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The intake manifold flange is different between the LS, GSR, and b16/itr/ctr, etc. I don't know what kind of power you'd put down with a LS manifold on a b16 anyways. They are two different engines all together.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loudassVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The intake manifold flange is different between the LS, GSR, and b16/itr/ctr, etc. I don't know what kind of power you'd put down with a LS manifold on a b16 anyways. They are two different engines all together. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Cool deal. I was aware the GSR mani was different from all the others but I did not know the LS differed from the B16/ITR. Good info guys.
Cool deal. I was aware the GSR mani was different from all the others but I did not know the LS differed from the B16/ITR. Good info guys.
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Re: (loudassVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loudassVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The intake manifold flange is different between the LS, GSR, and b16/itr/ctr, etc. I don't know what kind of power you'd put down with a LS manifold on a b16 anyways. They are two different engines all together. </TD></TR></TABLE>
dude the skunk2 manifold is basically a type r. so that being said, if you have a skunk 2 manifold, then u have a type r... right? RIGHT! so the only difference is the locations of the bolts?
dude the skunk2 manifold is basically a type r. so that being said, if you have a skunk 2 manifold, then u have a type r... right? RIGHT! so the only difference is the locations of the bolts?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody think of port/ runner size?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I was trying to say. The port size and runner length need to match the powerband of the engine. With a LS, the engine doesn't rev high, so you want as much midrange power as possible. B16/ITR are a completely different story. These engines don't think about making power until after 5k rpm, so they need short runners to make the good top end power. The LS should need longer runners to make decent torque, and midrange power. So IMHO, I don't see it helping any to have an ITR manifold or ITR copy on a LS, or LS manifold on an ITR or B16.
That's what I was trying to say. The port size and runner length need to match the powerband of the engine. With a LS, the engine doesn't rev high, so you want as much midrange power as possible. B16/ITR are a completely different story. These engines don't think about making power until after 5k rpm, so they need short runners to make the good top end power. The LS should need longer runners to make decent torque, and midrange power. So IMHO, I don't see it helping any to have an ITR manifold or ITR copy on a LS, or LS manifold on an ITR or B16.
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Re: (loudassVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loudassVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's what I was trying to say. The port size and runner length need to match the powerband of the engine. With a LS, the engine doesn't rev high, so you want as much midrange power as possible. B16/ITR are a completely different story. These engines don't think about making power until after 5k rpm, so they need short runners to make the good top end power. The LS should need longer runners to make decent torque, and midrange power. So IMHO, I don't see it helping any to have an ITR manifold or ITR copy on a LS, or LS manifold on an ITR or B16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
uuummm it provides more air flow, which then would put out more power... when you have certain modifications like ecu, and other goodies, regardless of ls or not, that manifold will make a difference. I know because I did it.
Thats going off topic.
I wanted to know if it would fit the b16head, and it will with slight modification. Right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAmodified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
uuummm it provides more air flow, which then would put out more power... when you have certain modifications like ecu, and other goodies, regardless of ls or not, that manifold will make a difference. I know because I did it.
Thats going off topic.
I wanted to know if it would fit the b16head, and it will with slight modification. Right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
what provides more airflow? an skunk ls compared to a stock b16?
think again
RUNNERS ON A NON VTEC MOTOR ARE WAY SMALLER THAN A VTEC ONE, AS SO IS THE PORT
geez whats so hard
uuummm it provides more air flow, which then would put out more power... when you have certain modifications like ecu, and other goodies, regardless of ls or not, that manifold will make a difference. I know because I did it.
Thats going off topic.
I wanted to know if it would fit the b16head, and it will with slight modification. Right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
what provides more airflow? an skunk ls compared to a stock b16?
think again
RUNNERS ON A NON VTEC MOTOR ARE WAY SMALLER THAN A VTEC ONE, AS SO IS THE PORT
geez whats so hard
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Re: (NAmodified)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAmodified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
uuummm it provides more air flow, which then would put out more power... when you have certain modifications like ecu, and other goodies, regardless of ls or not, that manifold will make a difference. I know because I did it.
Thats going off topic.
I wanted to know if it would fit the b16head, and it will with slight modification. Right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Off topic? Yes...but more airflow doesn't always equal more power. If airflow was the issue, just widen the ports on the head to 3", and then put ITB's with 3" runners on, and fit the biggest diameter piping for the header and exhaust and see how much power you make. Difference...yes...power...no. More air helps, but without the speed characteristics, it doesn't do much. So yes, will the skunk2 LS manifold make a difference? Yes, but in your favor...probably not...unless I'm missing something.
uuummm it provides more air flow, which then would put out more power... when you have certain modifications like ecu, and other goodies, regardless of ls or not, that manifold will make a difference. I know because I did it.
Thats going off topic.
I wanted to know if it would fit the b16head, and it will with slight modification. Right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Off topic? Yes...but more airflow doesn't always equal more power. If airflow was the issue, just widen the ports on the head to 3", and then put ITB's with 3" runners on, and fit the biggest diameter piping for the header and exhaust and see how much power you make. Difference...yes...power...no. More air helps, but without the speed characteristics, it doesn't do much. So yes, will the skunk2 LS manifold make a difference? Yes, but in your favor...probably not...unless I'm missing something.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wegotmorrison »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skunk 2 Manifold sucks *****.. dont get it 
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ok thanks for the info-less statement.
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok thanks for the info-less statement.
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Re: (projectTeG)
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ok thanks for the info-less statement.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What else is there to say? its a poor product.. everyone I know who has had it, regrets buying it.
ok thanks for the info-less statement.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What else is there to say? its a poor product.. everyone I know who has had it, regrets buying it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wegotmorrison »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What else is there to say? its a poor product.. everyone I know who has had it, regrets buying it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
have you personally used/ installed one? i have and i have to say that it is a great product. they regret buying it prolly because they didnt do the necassary actions to get gains from the manifold.
What else is there to say? its a poor product.. everyone I know who has had it, regrets buying it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
have you personally used/ installed one? i have and i have to say that it is a great product. they regret buying it prolly because they didnt do the necassary actions to get gains from the manifold.
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have you personally used/ installed one? i have and i have to say that it is a great product. they regret buying it prolly because they didnt do the necassary actions to get gains from the manifold. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You're probably right. I've heard nothing bad quality wise...I've just heard that it takes a lot of RPM to make power with these. I guess they are aimed at making power between 7-10k rpm. I personally have not used one.
have you personally used/ installed one? i have and i have to say that it is a great product. they regret buying it prolly because they didnt do the necassary actions to get gains from the manifold. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You're probably right. I've heard nothing bad quality wise...I've just heard that it takes a lot of RPM to make power with these. I guess they are aimed at making power between 7-10k rpm. I personally have not used one.
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Re: (loudassVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loudassVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're probably right. I've heard nothing bad quality wise...I've just heard that it takes a lot of RPM to make power with these. I guess they are aimed at making power between 7-10k rpm. I personally have not used one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
naw it doesnt aim for what the victorX does, itbelieve it aims for about 5-9k. I mean I talk to DonF about the manifold and he had nothing but good things to say about it.
You're probably right. I've heard nothing bad quality wise...I've just heard that it takes a lot of RPM to make power with these. I guess they are aimed at making power between 7-10k rpm. I personally have not used one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
naw it doesnt aim for what the victorX does, itbelieve it aims for about 5-9k. I mean I talk to DonF about the manifold and he had nothing but good things to say about it.
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naw it doesnt aim for what the victorX does, itbelieve it aims for about 5-9k. I mean I talk to DonF about the manifold and he had nothing but good things to say about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting...I'm looking for 3-7.5k on mine. I'm gonna run an h-double-duece though, and redline is at 8000, and with the ITR tranny, somewhere from the mid 3's to high 7's in the rpm range should be about right. Maybe the Skumk 2 would work fine though...we'll see. I wanna get the matching tb to go with, and make sure its port matched...then add the hondata gasket for another lb-ft. or two. Its all about the whole thing working together, and not just one individual part. Everything is gonna compliment everything else.
naw it doesnt aim for what the victorX does, itbelieve it aims for about 5-9k. I mean I talk to DonF about the manifold and he had nothing but good things to say about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting...I'm looking for 3-7.5k on mine. I'm gonna run an h-double-duece though, and redline is at 8000, and with the ITR tranny, somewhere from the mid 3's to high 7's in the rpm range should be about right. Maybe the Skumk 2 would work fine though...we'll see. I wanna get the matching tb to go with, and make sure its port matched...then add the hondata gasket for another lb-ft. or two. Its all about the whole thing working together, and not just one individual part. Everything is gonna compliment everything else.
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