Oil cooler question Ls/v
I am currently running an ITR oil cooler. Since for every 11 degrees you can lower your motor you gain 1 HP, I thought this addition (if possible) could help with reliability plus a small hp gain.
I was wondering if would be possible to install an oil cooler between an Ls block and a b16 head utilizing the ls/vtec kit. I wasn't sure if oil pressure would be too low for vtec to operate properly due to the distance the oil would have to travel. I have seen trucks and suvs with oil coolers, and I thought I could save about 300 bones by getting one out of a junk yard and adding one to my motor. What do you think?
I was wondering if would be possible to install an oil cooler between an Ls block and a b16 head utilizing the ls/vtec kit. I wasn't sure if oil pressure would be too low for vtec to operate properly due to the distance the oil would have to travel. I have seen trucks and suvs with oil coolers, and I thought I could save about 300 bones by getting one out of a junk yard and adding one to my motor. What do you think?
can i ask you, why do you think running oil coolers is safe?..do those CTR motors that stay at 9k+ rpms for minutes at a time run oil coolers?? no..why should you?
Taken from importbuilders.com aka Jeff
"Do not run OIL coolers or crazy oiling systems on Honda street motors. Does a Civic Type-R motor have an oil cooler on it? Haven’t you seen those Japanese videos of CTR’s racing at 10,500 RPM and up and down above 9k for like an hour straight? And it doesn’t blow up. So obviously, it’s telling you something. I can’t tell you how many people put the oil cooler lines on backwards, and start up the motor, which has 0 PSI oil pressure, then start revving it up and down saying “just wait, the oil pressure still hasn’t kicked in yet” Meanwhile your whole motor already needs to be rebuilt and all the bearings just got hundreds of thousands of miles wear on them. I witness these things first hand! Listen to me people. SKIP THE OIL COOLERS and crazy oil apparatuses. I mean damn, I got people trying to argue with me on the phone saying their oil pressure gauge has no reading while I scream “TURN OFF THE MOTOR” and then hear the ridiculous response “but Jeff, I triple checked the oil cooler, its installed correct”. It is? It never is when you have no oil pressure, but that’s too much common sense in the heat of the moment. So if your five thousand dollar long block means a lot to you, skip the crazy oil apparatuses, or read the instructions and have 5 people check it for you before you turn it on. It is always a good idea to run an aftermarket oil additive that has substances in it that coats the motor, so that you get over the few seconds of bad installing oil fixtures and the like. They work, proven. But not for minutes on end. Also of note, your stock oil pressure sensor that’s in your gauge cluster is good. It works great. If you start your car and it stays on, you turn it off. I used to use gauges a lot, but I think I am over that because I still to this day have not seen a circumstance where the stock one didn’t serve the same purpose. All the cases I have seen, the oil pressure fell to nil, and both worked. Very few cases are where oil pressure goes down over time and the gauge is useful. One such a case is burning oil, or losing oil from a leak. The more oil you lose, the lower the pressure. So the oil pressure gauge can tell you how much oil you have lost over time pretty well. That’s one good reason to have it, if you don’t check your oil all the time. I do, so it’s fine.
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Taken from importbuilders.com aka Jeff
"Do not run OIL coolers or crazy oiling systems on Honda street motors. Does a Civic Type-R motor have an oil cooler on it? Haven’t you seen those Japanese videos of CTR’s racing at 10,500 RPM and up and down above 9k for like an hour straight? And it doesn’t blow up. So obviously, it’s telling you something. I can’t tell you how many people put the oil cooler lines on backwards, and start up the motor, which has 0 PSI oil pressure, then start revving it up and down saying “just wait, the oil pressure still hasn’t kicked in yet” Meanwhile your whole motor already needs to be rebuilt and all the bearings just got hundreds of thousands of miles wear on them. I witness these things first hand! Listen to me people. SKIP THE OIL COOLERS and crazy oil apparatuses. I mean damn, I got people trying to argue with me on the phone saying their oil pressure gauge has no reading while I scream “TURN OFF THE MOTOR” and then hear the ridiculous response “but Jeff, I triple checked the oil cooler, its installed correct”. It is? It never is when you have no oil pressure, but that’s too much common sense in the heat of the moment. So if your five thousand dollar long block means a lot to you, skip the crazy oil apparatuses, or read the instructions and have 5 people check it for you before you turn it on. It is always a good idea to run an aftermarket oil additive that has substances in it that coats the motor, so that you get over the few seconds of bad installing oil fixtures and the like. They work, proven. But not for minutes on end. Also of note, your stock oil pressure sensor that’s in your gauge cluster is good. It works great. If you start your car and it stays on, you turn it off. I used to use gauges a lot, but I think I am over that because I still to this day have not seen a circumstance where the stock one didn’t serve the same purpose. All the cases I have seen, the oil pressure fell to nil, and both worked. Very few cases are where oil pressure goes down over time and the gauge is useful. One such a case is burning oil, or losing oil from a leak. The more oil you lose, the lower the pressure. So the oil pressure gauge can tell you how much oil you have lost over time pretty well. That’s one good reason to have it, if you don’t check your oil all the time. I do, so it’s fine.
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GSR and ITR blocks have oil coolers, just not front mounts. They have that adapter that goes between the filter and block and connect to the coolant line, right. I'm not sure exactly what that piece is called, but I thought It is a cooler.
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