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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Well my usdm spec GSR just took a crap and now I have to buy a new motor, due to financial reasons I can only afford a second gen B16 long block, i just want to know if it is going to be a lot slower then my us spec gsr? curent mods are Intake,Try Y Hytech Header, 2.5 inch mandrel bent exhaust no cat,JDM ITR TRANS 4.7 final drive,this set up is in a 96 Civic hatch back.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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I also plan on swaping all bolt on parts over to the B16 including the trans
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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use B18 lower end, and B16A head... :D
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Mm pretty sure he means his block is done for so he is changing it. Yes, it won't have as much torque as the GSR but it will still move nicely with the mods you have especially in a hatchback.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KLiK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use B18 lower end, and B16A head... :D</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not the question and he already stated financial reasons

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H9Omega &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mm pretty sure he means his block is done for so he is changing it. Yes, it won't have as much torque as the GSR but it will still move nicely with the mods you have especially in a hatchback.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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why not get an ls block?
you're in cali....
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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LS,b20 and B16 are my options I just want the best performace
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FUPAH8TR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS,b20 and B16 are my options I just want the best performace</TD></TR></TABLE>

When you stated "financial reasons" how much exactly are we talking? No sense in blowing all the money you have ya know?
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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well i have a JDM B16 in my eg coupe and recently was at the strip and ran a 14.9 against a GSR that ran a 15.2. we were both stock besides bolt ons.... my b16 had a better top end i beleive... but if you do ls vtec they tend to get expensive and can be a nightmare. with a b20 unless u boost it your not going to be satisfied with the output. if i were you i would shove some JDM B16 pistons in that block and go. just my thoughts.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When you stated "financial reasons" how much exactly are we talking? No sense in blowing all the money you have ya know? </TD></TR></TABLE>

ive got about 1600 to spend
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egB16A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have a JDM B16 in my eg coupe and recently was at the strip and ran a 14.9 against a GSR that ran a 15.2. we were both stock besides bolt ons.... my b16 had a better top end i beleive... but if you do ls vtec they tend to get expensive and can be a nightmare. with a b20 unless u boost it your not going to be satisfied with the output. if i were you i would shove some JDM B16 pistons in that block and go. just my thoughts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats good to know
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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try to save a little more and you can get another gsr longblock http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30026 maybe sell the gsr head you have now if its still good

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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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I'd say with 1600 do a small JMD B16 build and smoke gsr's and ls vtec's. a boosted b20 is bad *** tho.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try to save a little more and you can get another gsr longblock http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30026 maybe sell the gsr head you have now if its still good

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i can get a second gen B16 for a thousand and that would leave me wth 600 for parts like an ecu new intake and tune up parts
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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With $1600 I'd just throw a nice b18b block on your existing gsr tranny.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30025

It'll be faster than a b16a, and likely have more potential.

All shipped to your door for ~$1000.

That even leaves you with some money for some cams.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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I agree with ek on this one. You can even search the marketplace and find all you need for cheaper than 1k since you already have the trans. Save up some money from there and you can LSvtec or even sell the remainder of your parts for turbo components.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With $1600 I'd just throw a nice b18b block on your existing gsr tranny.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30025

It'll be faster than a b16a, and likely have more potential.

All shipped to your door for ~$1000.

That even leaves you with some money for some cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have an ITR trans with a 4.7 final drive i should of also mentioned i like to rev the **** out of my car I usualy hit the local canyon at lest once a week
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30024
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With $1600 I'd just throw a nice b18b block on your existing gsr tranny.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30025

It'll be faster than a b16a, and likely have more potential.

All shipped to your door for ~$1000.

That even leaves you with some money for some cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have that setup its not that fast, get some real experience fanboy
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i have that setup its not that fast, get some real experience fanboy</TD></TR></TABLE>

The b18b with a b16 tranny I drove was very fun IMO.

So that's not experience? Why don't you ask me if I've ever driven a car with the setup before you start bashing me.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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For $1600 there is no way you could turn that GSR into a fresh motor with a rebuild?


IMO, I woud much rather have a B18b1 with a B16 trans than a B16. Wait, I do have a B18b1 w/ a B16 trans lol
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
IMO, I woud much rather have a B18b1 with a B16 trans than a B16. Wait, I do have a B18b1 w/ a B16 trans lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol

That gets my vote as well.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Sec gen B16-$ 999.00

P-30 ECU -$ 200.00

OBD2 to OBD1 Jumper harness-$ 65.00

New intake- $ 60.00

Plugs and wires- $ 50.00

oil,filter,MTF,and etc $ 33.00

Grand total $1407.00

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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A JDM B16a is going to have the same horsepower as a GSR, less torque however. Still will make good power for much cheaper.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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why not rebuild, is the head still good?
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