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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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So I have someone lined up who said he would do the swap but i think more importantly I need to know what engine to put in it.

People have mentioned the B18 type r integra engine. Will this fit the bill? Also my car is currently automatic and will definately need to be changed to manual.

Question 1-What engine?

Question 2-Where to get this engine for the best price with a 5 or 6 speed tranny?

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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What's your price budget?

If it's around $1000 or so, just get a LS motor w/ tranny and you're good to go.

And the B18C5 will definitely fit the bill if you got the money.

Site to get the motor - http://www.hmotorsonline.com
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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I'm willing to spend up to $4000
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Would a GSR motor work? Would it be much different from spending the extra 1000 on the Type R motor?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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it will be alot different, like caviler to corvette different
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Whats the difference between the 96-97 spec and the 98+ spec type r?

Please Note: We now offer the Hasport Hydraulic tranny to cable car conversion kit for (EFB2)$400.Also available is the Hasport High Horsepower upgraded motor mount kit for $300.(DC STK)

is that stuff necessary?

Also, would I need to purchase the "complete change over?"
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Ok so i do like the type r series however it depends on your future plans for the motor. If you plan to go boost then the type r is useless with the high compression ratio it offers. The gsr is a good foundation for any build to start off. I like to think of it as the middleground between n/a or boost. And yes you will need to buy the whole change over kit. ecu, engine, tranny, linkage etc. So what are your plans for your build???
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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it would be easier to get the complete change over, unless you wanna peice **** together urself, yes you will need motor mounts but u wont need the cable link, your car is hydro clutch anyways

and get hasport mounts, if ur gunna rip your car apart at least do it right
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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So does GSR have more potential with its accessibility of boost power?

If I bought the Type R, I would most likely just leave it as is considering the price of it.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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The gsr has more potential then the type r for boost, yes. However if you do run n/a the type r is a good engine. But also look at it this way. If you get a gsr and are having second thoughts about not getting the type r then convert the gsr into a type r. it may be a lil more expensive but at least you will have the gsr pistons left to do with whatever you want and the cams to. But look at it this way. you can only get so much hp from all motor engines and most of the time its enough for most people but if you got big plans and enough money there is no point in buying the type r then getting new pistons for it and then boosting it. that would be like moving backwards to go forward, when if you get a gsr you have more options at a cheaper price, and you still have the option to go type r if you wanted.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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or do an jdm h22a like me and walk all over a gsr and 7lbs on a stock h22 will get you some numbers!!!!
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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Im surpised nobody has linked you to the FAQ's or told you to use the search function.

Sounds like you know very little about what your getting into. I'd start off with the FAQ's.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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i kno if i had to choose i would go with the type r jus because i think that they are a better quality engine, they have more power and jus cause its "TYPE R!"

alot of u will think im stupid for this but i would still boost a type r... jus at low boost.

either engine is nice... but the gsr u can boost or na. most ppl that use stock internals dont boost type r
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Yes a jdm h22a would be a great choice it has more hp and way more tq then either the type r or the gsr. I want to put that in my 95 dx coupe i think that it would pull that light car very well. The choice is up to you all we can do is put in our own preferences. Hope some of this helps.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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personally, id suggest the GSR swap... Im doing a b16 in my civic, ill be happy, but a GSR would have been better, just more work. 1.8L engine, still get good gas mileage, good power, can go either boost, or n/a... Its not as much work as the h22 and not as expensive as the type r. Its a good conversion from what you'd been used to. I would buy the GSR and dump the extra into more performance parts (i/h/e/cams/P&P/3 angle valve job) stuff like that.

Good luck, by the way.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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well i just finished up a lsvtec in my 97 DX coupe and i love it. It is fully built for boost and i lowered my compression and it still feels fast as hell.. even though with my stock y8 i only had 87 wheel horse stock lol
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by potential &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The gsr has more potential then the type r for boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're an idiot. A Type-R motor at the same psi will make more power and have a better powerband than a GSR motor. Don't open your mouth and let words come out unless you know what the **** you're talking about. There's no such thing as "too high compression" for turbocharging. If you weren't a total misinformation-spreading noob who has never done research into forced induction or volumetric efficiency you might know that.

The Type-R motor is a better engine all around for everything but you're not going to get it up and running for under $4000 unless you steal it.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You're an idiot. A Type-R motor at the same psi will make more power and have a better powerband than a GSR motor. Don't open your mouth and let words come out unless you know what the **** you're talking about. There's no such thing as "too high compression" for turbocharging. If you weren't a total misinformation-spreading noob who has never done research into forced induction or volumetric efficiency you might know that.

The Type-R motor is a better engine all around for everything but you're not going to get it up and running for under $4000 unless you steal it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree 110%
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Comparing LS and GSR, what is better performance wise and price wise? I saw teh LS was still like 2 grand? I could be wrong...
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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save your money and just boost your y7.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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for the money get an ls and a b16 tranny and build it. possible ls/vtec, possible boost, in my opinion it is more expandable and cheaper. but you have to drive it everyday
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Is there anything I can do to the tranny to make it more effective being automatic?

Also, The car may be a 1.5 or a 1.6 but I KNKOW its not Vtec...

also what do u mean i have to drive it everyday?


Modified by disrupter006 at 11:49 PM 8/12/2007
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Volumetric efficency??? Did you use spell check to make sure you got that right? With the lower compression of the gsr you can FORCE MORE air into a cylinder that has more "volumetric" space than the higher compression of the type r. The type r is more domed and therefore has less space to pack in air. Im not disputing with you the fact that you can't or shouldn't boost a type r. Just the fact that why would you spend more money on the type r and then a turbo kit when it would make more sense to just boost the gsr. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you always should. But thank you for your input, maybe next time you can be more civil and use less language. Im not on this website to have ******** tell me that they know more than me. I know i dont know it all but i got news for you, neither do you. Im here to learn and share information. Just like everyone else.
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