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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Default Sept 8-9 NASA Event at Gingerman (HPDE Only)

Time is moving quick and we're already over half-way through the season. Up next is at Gingerman on Sept 8-9.

What makes this event a little different from a tyipcal NASA event is that it is HPDE ONLY, no race or time trial groups. It allows more track time (less groups) and a more relaxing environment. It would have classroom/download sessions that put more emphasis on HPDE Driver Training, on track etiquette, heal/toe, feeling of the car, and chassis dynamics, etc.

Many of us consider Gingerman as our "home track" and know the track and area pretty well. NASA has not held an event there since 2004. It's good to have them back at this track again.

For the more "advanced" drivers, this event also offers:
- Competition School for those who wants to get a race license.
- Instructor Clinic for those who wants to be certifiied to instruct for future NASA events (and drive for free).
- TT Licensing for those who wants to start competing in Time Trials.

Links to event details and track website for directions:
http://www.nasamidwest.com
http://www.gingermanraceway.com/

For those who has taken the special offer when signing up for Road America, you do NOT need to sign up online. Simply send an email to dave@nasamidwest.com telling him that you are cashing in the offer. He would sync up your CC info for the special rate (50% off!) and you are in.

And once again, here are more info on their volunteer program to earn free track time. If you have the free time, do it! They always need volunteers and the compensation is well worth it:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1913074

Besides driving, South Haven is a very nice vacation town with a beautiful beach and great restaurants. There are several hotels right off the highway and only 5 miles from the track.

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Modified by Wai at 3:21 PM 8/8/2007
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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If the honda doesnt splode at gingerman on labor day, I should hopefully be doing the comp school that weekend... I'll be crossing my fingers


edit.... does anybody have any info on the comp school, like if i actually have to drive the race car oppose to my sti which only has a rollbar? I remember watching last year, and people had there daily beater benz's on track with home depot brake ducts.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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I remember that Dave had mentioned he might let TT groups into this event, this was really early on though (I think he mentioned it at the Factory5 meet and greet). Is it confirmed now that TT will definitely not be invited?
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by triple_s1x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the honda doesnt splode at gingerman on labor day, I should hopefully be doing the comp school that weekend... I'll be crossing my fingers

edit.... does anybody have any info on the comp school, like if i actually have to drive the race car oppose to my sti which only has a rollbar? I remember watching last year, and people had there daily beater benz's on track with home depot brake ducts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good luck on Labor Day. Keep it in one piece.

You can use your daily driver for their comp school. Reason being that you wouldn't really go ***** out high speed at comp school. What you will be doing most is driving side-by-side, practice passing and being passed, watch mirrors, everything is toned down.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I remember that Dave had mentioned he might let TT groups into this event, this was really early on though (I think he mentioned it at the Factory5 meet and greet). Is it confirmed now that TT will definitely not be invited?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think TT will be in it. Registration page only shows Group 4, not Group 4/TT. Even if TT class is open, I highly doubt that there would be many entries tho, because the Nationals is only a week away. People might use this event as shakedown tho.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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I just saw that there's an option of signing up for either 1 day or 2 days ($189, $289). It used to be 2-day only when I started this post.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Just did some random reading on the nasa forum, and now your required to run a fully prepped car. So we might show up and we might not. Not really sure the car has the ability to last a full 2 days, and no taking off the 60trim is not allowed.
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by triple_s1x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just did some random reading on the nasa forum, and now your required to run a fully prepped car. So we might show up and we might not. Not really sure the car has the ability to last a full 2 days, and no taking off the 60trim is not allowed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really..... maybe street car was only ok with Driving Concept.
http://www.drivingconcepts.com/
Driving Concept held a school at the MAM and Road America event. Looks like those were the only 2 events they would be here in the Midwest.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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This past weekend at Mid Ohio was AWESOME! Love how they put the events together.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Less than 2 weeks away.
I'm tempted to do a 1-day as a shakedown right before National.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Less than 2 weeks away.
I'm tempted to do a 1-day as a shakedown right before National.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm tempted to change a bunch of **** and sort it out at Nationals practice.

Hey, did you see the rules updates yet?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm tempted to change a bunch of **** and sort it out at Nationals practice.

Hey, did you see the rules updates yet?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I did. 2600lbs for H22.... eek!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah I did. 2600lbs for H22.... eek!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to buy one.
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Old Sep 3, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Coming up this weekend!!
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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I'm there. lets hope this weather holds up. any idea how many people signed up?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm there. lets hope this weather holds up. any idea how many people signed up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure the exact head count, but looks like there'll be quite a few RSX's and S2K's there to represent the Honda crowd.

Also, Allen (the guy who wrecked the silver EG at Autobahn) will be there in his new race car.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Yeah we'll be there with Mikey to help him break in the new car, and ensure he doesn't go all wall-hunting like he did with the old one.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Event schedule is posted:
http://www.nasamidwest.com/doc...n.pdf

Looks to be lots of track time.
(4) 20 mins sessions + a 35 mins mini enduro each day.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah we'll be there with Mikey to help him break in the new car, and ensure he doesn't go all wall-hunting like he did with the old one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah no kidding...!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Online registration is now CLOSED. Group 1 is sold out!

You can still sign up for Group 2, 3 or 4 at the track but there would be a $50 additional charge.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Fun day!!! Great weather too. I'm sorting through pictures now, I'll have them up shortly.

Allen didn't crash, yay!!
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Hondas first!
























new NSX prototype spotted at the track (rly)


What's happening here??


I went to a road course, and a drag race broke out!



Miatas







to Mustangs







to Evos and an STI






I actually spotted this guy on the way back to Chicago twice, once at the gas station and once on I94.


and Others









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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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looked like it turned out to be a great event.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the pics Al!
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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nice pics!
Looks like a fun track....I need to sample some east coast asphalt


cant wait to run PIR here in Phoenix again....
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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very nice! I wish I would have had the time/money to show up to this event.

Maybe next year.
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