Can you improve the effienicty of a nitrous shot?
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Can you improve the effienicty of a nitrous shot?
Something I have been wondering for a little while couldn't really find an answer.
Basically just wondering if you can improve the effienicty of a nitrous oxide shot.
like if you have a good cam set up, great header, go CAI, and so forth would a 50shot of nitrous net you more then the 50hp?
or is it pretty much just an isolated system that doesn't work off the other systems of the motor?
I ask this because I know with boost, it's all about CFM and if you can flow more CFM at 5psi then some guy at 10psi, your gonna make more power then him.
is it the same for nitrous?
Basically just wondering if you can improve the effienicty of a nitrous oxide shot.
like if you have a good cam set up, great header, go CAI, and so forth would a 50shot of nitrous net you more then the 50hp?
or is it pretty much just an isolated system that doesn't work off the other systems of the motor?
I ask this because I know with boost, it's all about CFM and if you can flow more CFM at 5psi then some guy at 10psi, your gonna make more power then him.
is it the same for nitrous?
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Re: Can you improve the effienicty of a nitrous shot? (DCxMagus)
Nitrous blows 100%, 100% of the time, so any way to increase the length of valve opening events, or essentially increase volumetric efficiency will produce more "power" for a given shot of nitrous.
Increasing the efficiency of the nitrous would basically just be to introduce it in as liquified a state as possible, as late as possible (i.e. purge valve). Also, keeping bottle pressure ideal helps. If your using a dry shot, you can move the nozzle further from the throttle body in order to create better cylinder distribution, as well as give the nitrous more time to basically absorb heat, thus further dropping intake temps and improving charge density.
Another way to extract more power would be to manage it with EMS versus just a fuel jet. Targeting specific air/fuel ratio's will certainly yield more power for a given "shot". Generally a 50 shot gains you 50 ft/lb's not 50 hp....like I said, peak VE will yield peak gain with nitrous.
There are many ways to increase a systems efficiency beyond just using a bigger jet.
Increasing the efficiency of the nitrous would basically just be to introduce it in as liquified a state as possible, as late as possible (i.e. purge valve). Also, keeping bottle pressure ideal helps. If your using a dry shot, you can move the nozzle further from the throttle body in order to create better cylinder distribution, as well as give the nitrous more time to basically absorb heat, thus further dropping intake temps and improving charge density.
Another way to extract more power would be to manage it with EMS versus just a fuel jet. Targeting specific air/fuel ratio's will certainly yield more power for a given "shot". Generally a 50 shot gains you 50 ft/lb's not 50 hp....like I said, peak VE will yield peak gain with nitrous.
There are many ways to increase a systems efficiency beyond just using a bigger jet.
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Re: Can you improve the effienicty of a nitrous shot? (RC000E)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nitrous blows 100%, 100% of the time, so any way to increase the length of valve opening events, or essentially increase volumetric efficiency will produce more "power" for a given shot of nitrous.
Increasing the efficiency of the nitrous would basically just be to introduce it in as liquified a state as possible, as late as possible (i.e. purge valve). Also, keeping bottle pressure ideal helps. If your using a dry shot, you can move the nozzle further from the throttle body in order to create better cylinder distribution, as well as give the nitrous more time to basically absorb heat, thus further dropping intake temps and improving charge density.
Another way to extract more power would be to manage it with EMS versus just a fuel jet. Targeting specific air/fuel ratio's will certainly yield more power for a given "shot". Generally a 50 shot gains you 50 ft/lb's not 50 hp....like I said, peak VE will yield peak gain with nitrous.
There are many ways to increase a systems efficiency beyond just using a bigger jet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what I needed to know thanks
I'll be running a NX wet shot on a H22 tuned with Hondata S300 on a set on S2P1 cams
Increasing the efficiency of the nitrous would basically just be to introduce it in as liquified a state as possible, as late as possible (i.e. purge valve). Also, keeping bottle pressure ideal helps. If your using a dry shot, you can move the nozzle further from the throttle body in order to create better cylinder distribution, as well as give the nitrous more time to basically absorb heat, thus further dropping intake temps and improving charge density.
Another way to extract more power would be to manage it with EMS versus just a fuel jet. Targeting specific air/fuel ratio's will certainly yield more power for a given "shot". Generally a 50 shot gains you 50 ft/lb's not 50 hp....like I said, peak VE will yield peak gain with nitrous.
There are many ways to increase a systems efficiency beyond just using a bigger jet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what I needed to know thanks
I'll be running a NX wet shot on a H22 tuned with Hondata S300 on a set on S2P1 cams
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Re: Can you improve the effienicty of a nitrous shot? (DCxMagus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DCxMagus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I ask this because I know with boost, it's all about CFM and if you can flow more CFM at 5psi then some guy at 10psi, your gonna make more power then him.
is it the same for nitrous?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not exactly. For turbos, going with a turbo with a larger compressor wheel will help cram more air mass into the motor at a given pressure level. Combined with more fuel, you have the potential to make more power. The limits are seemingly endless with the various turbo choices out there.
With nitrous, you're limited to the power potential of the chemical makeup of nitrous oxide. N2O: one part nitrogen, two parts oxygen. When broken down in the combustion chamber, it releases two oxygen molecules. And when combined with additional fuel, you will obviously make more power. You can not increase the efficiency of this chemical reaction, you can only increase the volume of nitrous being injected. Of course you can probably improve upon the delivery system to take advantage of nitrous and it's many performance enhancing properties, but most kits do a good enough job already.
I ask this because I know with boost, it's all about CFM and if you can flow more CFM at 5psi then some guy at 10psi, your gonna make more power then him.
is it the same for nitrous?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not exactly. For turbos, going with a turbo with a larger compressor wheel will help cram more air mass into the motor at a given pressure level. Combined with more fuel, you have the potential to make more power. The limits are seemingly endless with the various turbo choices out there.
With nitrous, you're limited to the power potential of the chemical makeup of nitrous oxide. N2O: one part nitrogen, two parts oxygen. When broken down in the combustion chamber, it releases two oxygen molecules. And when combined with additional fuel, you will obviously make more power. You can not increase the efficiency of this chemical reaction, you can only increase the volume of nitrous being injected. Of course you can probably improve upon the delivery system to take advantage of nitrous and it's many performance enhancing properties, but most kits do a good enough job already.
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