just picked up a shortblock and planning to sleeve and make a lot of hp with it. it's missing the oil pan, my first upgrade i was thinking of getting the moroso wet sump pan with the extended kick sump. is there a benifit from using the dry sump set rather wet setup? car will have to be street driven from time to time.

and to my understanding the extended oil pick up is required for the extended kick sump one not the regular moroso oil pans?

 

dry sump is the way to go on ANY car BUT its EXPENSIVE as all hell look to spend around ATLEAST $1200 if your lucky.

Pros of dry sump
1. constant oil pressure
2. decreases to no crankcase pressure an sometimes a vaccumn will be pulled
3. detached oil tank can be mounted anywhere
4. HP gains can be up to 20hp but dont always count on it
5. compact

Cons of dry sump
1. Price
2. lots of parts

 

yeah more things to go wrong with a dry sump, but there proven to be good. I don't think its necessary tho

 

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Pros of dry sump
1. constant oil pressure
2. decreases to no crankcase pressure an sometimes a vaccumn will be pulled
3. detached oil tank can be mounted anywhere
4. HP gains can be up to 20hp but dont always count on it
5. compact

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6. no oem oil pump to explode

 

i almost forgot if you wanted a cheaper route keep your wet sump system and run a crank scrapper i know most honda cranks dont sit in oil like domestics but its worth a look into

 

planning on making 600-700, can i get by with a wet sump? i'm trying to get a price on moroso's dry sump setup. yes it does look expensive.

 

we use wet sump on our cars and make 800 to the tires.

 

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yes wet sump if fine for that amount of HP just dont plan on taking any corners dry sump allows for high g-forces

 

i'm building my next set up specifically for drag.

 

if the set-up is strictly for drag with upto 700 or more HP you have options
1. wet-sump and catch cans
2. wet-sump and accu-sump with catch cans
3. straight dry-sump

remember high hp motors have blowby an high crankcase pressures dry-sump is usually the best way of reducing this but you may not get a 0 inHg pressure or vac.

 

i use a external peterson wet sump system and it has worked flawless for me i still have stock oil pan (modified) and the car has been on 3 hour road trips ,,bumper to bumper trafic,30psi dyno pulls and the track with no probs ,def one of the best things i did to the car its a peice of mind not worrying about the oem gear shattering in you motor ,it will run you a couple thousand when all said and done

 

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1. wet-sump and catch cans
2. wet-sump and accu-sump with catch cans
3. straight dry-sump

remember high hp motors have blowby an high crankcase pressures dry-sump is usually the best way of reducing this but you may not get a 0 inHg pressure or vac. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was gonna go with number one there.

 

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the most popular choice by far

 

i have a basic idea of what i'm going to do but in some high hp setups i see they run two an fitting off the valve cover instead of the pcv?. something i'll have to look more into.

 

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depending on how much blow by or crankcase pressure you will see guys running
1. two -10 to -12AN lines to a catch can
2. four -10 to -12AN lines to a catch can
most of those combos also have 2 more -10 to -12AN lines coming out the back of the block here