I went to the track last night hoping for a 13 second pass, but to no avail.

Here's my best two passes of the night:

60' - 2.104
330 - 5.913
1/8 - 9.056
1000 - 11.833
1/4 - 14.174
MPH - 96.37

60' - 2.125
330 - 5.942
1/8 - 9.091
1000 - 11.852
1/4 - 14.173
MPH - 97.01

These passes were made in an EF hatch, single cam non VTEC motor, on a 50 shot. I used 205/50/14 BFG Drag radials. I was hoping to cut a 2.0 60 ft at least.

As for how I launched, I pre-loaded off the line and everything. Revved it up to about 2500 or so rpm (any higher and I spun), let the clutch out til it wanted to go, and held it back with the e-brake. When the light went green, I let down the e-brake and let her have it.

I also have poly bushings in my cross member, solid engine mounts, the BFG's were at 12 psi, the rear tires were at 50 psi.

The tranny is non-lsd, 1991 Si tranny. Any suggestions as to how I should get my 60 foot time down? Not spray in first?

 

how are you letting off the clutch?...if you just snap it your probably gonna spin too much for a solid 60...try slipping it a bit...once you get the hang of it you will be able to launch higher without spinning so much and your 60 will go down...you wanna be able to launch with a little wheels spin....just enough to set you in your powerband and get you puttin the power to the ground instead of wasting a nd spinning....

suspension matters as well...my rear end squats real bad when i launch...im very curious to see what i can run with the new traction bar going in....im thinkin about tryin those screw in spring tensioners for the hell of it next time out...theyre cheap and who knows they may be effectve.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinkin about tryin those screw in spring tensioners for the hell of it next time out...theyre cheap and who knows they may be effectve.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about?

 

you can find em at almost any auto parts store....i dont quite know how to explain how they look like....but imagine a cube with grooves on 4 sides of it....you slip it between two coils and ratchet it in with a 1/2 inch driver...i think it raises whichever corner you put it on about a half inch...i used to run em on my front springs on my EF for header clearance....but it wouldnt hurt to try em out back to put some more load on the front wheels....

 

Have someone watch your wheels when you do your burnout to see if both spin - I used to work the steering wheel side to side to get both sides sticky icky

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can find em at almost any auto parts store....i dont quite know how to explain how they look like....but imagine a cube with grooves on 4 sides of it....you slip it between two coils and ratchet it in with a 1/2 inch driver...i think it raises whichever corner you put it on about a half inch...i used to run em on my front springs on my EF for header clearance....but it wouldnt hurt to try em out back to put some more load on the front wheels....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry but he doesn't need a stiff type of rear suspension to run 13's, especially some ghetto Autozone parts.

The problem is you just need more practice. You went one night to the track, stands to reason going more than once will yeild better times.

 

Heat the tires up a little more and keep trying.

 

2500rpm is way too low.

I didn't know this either, but you actually want to spin off the line, if you dead hook, you will bog and be slower.

Try launching higher, it may seems slower, but I've noticed I get better 60' times on runs where I spun the **** out of 1st and I thought were kinda crappy.

 

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I'm sorry but he doesn't need a stiff type of rear suspension to run 13's, especially some ghetto Autozone parts.
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ummm reading comprehension?

i never told him he needs anything.....i just mentioned i was going to try the spring spacers on MY vehicle to compensate for a bit of spring sag thats occuring....when he didnt know what they are i elaborated on the design....so dont put words in my mouth....

tippy, i forgot to mention the bfg drags like to get real hot....heat em up like you would a slick....i just started rockin em on my coupe and im still getting used to launching on them....ive found ideal pressure to be around 16 psi w/ my setup but am still trying to find the right burnout time and launch rpm....it just seems like these tires grip better the hotter they get...for instance i was heating em up for about 4 seconds and then launching at 6500 and spinning a bit more than my liking....on the next run i did a longer burnout about 7 seconds and launched at 6500 and bogged really bad off the line...next run heated em up for about 7 seconds again and launched at 7k and the thing hooked well and knocked a tenth off my 60 ....1.86 w/ a heavy *** coupe and a b16.

pretty much you just gotta try different methods till you find what seems to work well with your setup.....

what kind of flywheel do you have?

 

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what kind of flywheel do you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock D16.

I think I'll try heating up the BFG's more. The only problem is that the minute I'm out of the water, It starts pulling the car forward and I can't stop it. Not enough power from my little ZC.

 

good times btw

 

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Meh, I wanted a 13.9.

I think I'm doing a 2nd gear burnout, more in the water next time. Plus, launching higher. We'll see if that does it.

 

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Meh, I wanted a 13.9.

I think I'm doing a 2nd gear burnout, more in the water next time. Plus, launching higher. We'll see if that does it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i think that'll help a lot.

2500 rpm launch is way too low. bring it up to 5000 at least, let the tires spin a little in first.


are you hitting the unit from first, or waiting until 2nd gear?

your car is consistent though, that's a plus.

 

run the BFG's at around 12-13 PSI n heat them up good...slip the clutch around 5k RPM, trust me with a lil practice u'll get better 60's...

i know 5k seems high but those BFG's will def hook if they are heated enough!!

 

12-13 psi is borderline pushing it....its gonna slow you down past the 8th...may be good for short times or may not.....anything lower and your gonna be riding on sidewall....id try 15 psi,5-6 second burnout and 5k at least....rememer that you set your tire pressure cold and when you do a burnout it heats the air up inside raising the pressure...long burnout will usually raise you up 1-2 psi for the run...

what gear are you currently doing the burnout in? usually i just use the waterbox to get me going, and once i have a decent spin i let it roll out and heat up on the dry ground, and usually spin em all the way up to the staging light to avoid any crap getting stuck to the hot tires...you dont want to end up splashing water all over your inner fenders that may drip on your tires while you staging and make you spin real bad....

full throttle shifts? have you dynoed you car? where does it make peak power? what rpm are you shifting at?

 

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I'm sorry but he doesn't need a stiff type of rear suspension to run 13's, especially some ghetto Autozone parts.

The problem is you just need more practice. You went one night to the track, stands to reason going more than once will yeild better times.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Bingo we have winner.. you will be pulling 1.8-1.9's after some more practice

 

20x8x14 slicks and you'll be running 13's with ease, launch at 7000+ rpm and pray tot he tranny gods your diff pin survives.

 

need 4K+ launch, 2.5 is way to low. With such a low rpm launch your rpms are probably dropping back down as you catch, giving high 60' times

 

run some race gas and up that nitrous shot to a 75hp.

 

I know of guys and have done it personally on a different brand of tire that run 8psi or so in BFGs. I have never heard of anyone going lower than 8psi, but it worked well for them.

 

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Well if you set the PSI at 12-13 when cold, when u heat the tires it will go to around 14-15PSI which is where u want it...

 

i run my bfgs at 10 psi, after a passenger cabin full of smoke burnout and a run the psi went up to around 13-14.
ive done it for over 30 passes no problems. it worked fine till i started launching with boost at around 375whp off the line.

you have to launch much much higher than 2500.

do a good 2nd gear burnout and then try launching around 5000-6000. get going in 1st, shift 2nd then let the spray loose

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">20x8x14 slicks and you'll be running 13's with ease, launch at 7000+ rpm and pray tot he tranny gods your diff pin survives.

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Well, it's obvious I could do that. I just really do not want to run slicks. Every redneck jackass around here thinks your car is slow if it runs a good time on slicks.

"Well, duh, it's on slicks. On the street it's still a slow piece of ****." &lt;-- I wanna shut them the **** up.

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I don't need race gas for a 75 shot.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ringgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know of guys and have done it personally on a different brand of tire that run 8psi or so in BFGs. I have never heard of anyone going lower than 8psi, but it worked well for them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

8 psi on a radial? I dunno. BFG says not to go below 12 I believe.

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do a good 2nd gear burnout and then try launching around 5000-6000. get going in 1st, shift 2nd then let the spray loose </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think that may have ben part of my problem, that I was spraying the minute I hit full throttle, and the tires weren't sticky enough to handle it.

NEXT TIME:

-Nice, smoky, 2nd gear burnout.
-Higher launch.
(-Maybe not spray in 1st? I dunno, I think it'll really make it quicker if it'll hook.)

 

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Sorry Tim but this is the only vid I got. To bad it's not the one of you shitin on the stang

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Pix and a vid from the track. Ya'll are right, I gotta LAUNCH.

 

8 psi on a street tire...thats nuts! its probably doing more harm than good anywhere past the 330'...the lowest id ever go is 12 and i think that pushing it on a street tire....

you need to do a way longer burnout than the one it that video....if your having touble with the car lurching forward just pull up the Ebrake before you start spinnin em and work the wheel left to right cuz the cars nose is gonna start wandering left to right...youll see what i mean when you do it...its easy....once you get a good spin goin on drop the Ebrake and spin it all the way through the stagng lights (if you can)and back up on your tire marks....launch at least 5k...no nitrous...as soon as you stop spinning get on the nitrous...and if you have a window switch powe shift every gear...you pretty much need to with a lightweight aluminum fly.....your car has 13.5 in it for sure

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oops i forgot you still got the stock flywheel but powershifting is still effective.