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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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just put on agx struts and neuspeed race springs on my 05
everything is installed corectly,
i heard that you have to flip the tie rods?
i get a clanking noise everytime i turn the wheel all the way
could that be the prob?
thx
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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did you set the springs right on the shock?... and on the top peace?.... it might be sliping and causing that sound
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostd96ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just put on agx struts and neuspeed race springs on my 05
everything is installed corectly,
i heard that you have to flip the tie rods?
i get a clanking noise everytime i turn the wheel all the way
could that be the prob?
thx</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the tie rod end is blown, then it'll knock, but most likely your springs aren't indexed/seated properly in the strut.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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well put..
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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im really sure that the springs are seated right
but im gunna jack it up tomorrow and make sure
also should i flip the outer tie rods?
the inner rods have a wide angle, could that be also causing
the clanking?
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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same here I have the same clunking noise its extreamly loud and when i look at my tie rods they look like they are at a extreme angle.. oh its a 2001 civic with tein flex kit... and the springs are seated wright they pretty much come put together correctly because of the pillow ball upper mount
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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What's the deal with flipping the tie rods? Someone was talkin about this on another thread I asked the question but it died...
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thinknology &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the deal with flipping the tie rods? Someone was talkin about this on another thread I asked the question but it died...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately, with the 7th Gen. Civics and the RSX, the steering arms on the on the McPherson's are in a location where the steering rods from the rack have to go slightly upwards to reach the arms. Now, when you lower the car, it changes for the worse, causing a large angle of incline. This causes premature wear on the steering rod joints, tie rod ends, and causes excessive bump steer. To remedy the situation people buy tie rod ends that have been flipped to mount to the underside of the steering arms. It's something that was common with lifted trucks, only in the reverse aspect.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Unfortunately, with the 7th Gen. Civics and the RSX, the steering arms on the on the McPherson's are in a location where the steering rods from the rack have to go slightly upwards to reach the arms. Now, when you lower the car, it changes for the worse, causing a large angle of incline. This causes premature wear on the steering rod joints, tie rod ends, and causes excessive bump steer. To remedy the situation people buy tie rod ends that have been flipped to mount to the underside of the steering arms. It's something that was common with lifted trucks, only in the reverse aspect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ahh, thank you, that's what I was thinking but... just wanted to once again clarify for my tiny mind
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:34 AM
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so do you just use the stock tie rod ends but flipped over? cuz im installing new tie rod ends 2nite cuz i have one very blown one
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03turboem2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do you just use the stock tie rod ends but flipped over? cuz im installing new tie rod ends 2nite cuz i have one very blown one</TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll find it impossible to do that, due to the cup on the steering arm. In order to run flipped, you'll need actual flipped tie rod ends. T1R makes them, but I'm unsure as to if there are other companies that do as well.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:11 AM
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ok i'll just run the stock ones since i already have them. and if(when) they go bad i'll think about replacing with the flipped ones.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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if it clunks when you turn, means your springs aren't seated correctly.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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do springs become "unseated" very often? about a week ago, my car started making the noise and it didnt before. i thought it was my tie rods but it might be my gcs
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curiouz_G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do springs become "unseated" very often? about a week ago, my car started making the noise and it didnt before. i thought it was my tie rods but it might be my gcs </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, if they weren't properly indexed in the first place, I would definitely say yes. It's not a life or death situation, though. It's just a nuisance to listen to.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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does it effect performace at all if it becomes unseated? i know you said it isnt a life and death situation, which means it shouldnt, but it just feels so dam weird
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curiouz_G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it effect performace at all if it becomes unseated? i know you said it isnt a life and death situation, which means it shouldnt, but it just feels so dam weird </TD></TR></TABLE>

It may effect them slightly. You do get a small vibration from the spring rotating, so it's quite possible.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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My car made a similar noise and it was the spring moving while I turn the wheel. It had nothing to do with the springs placement. It was the bearing that sits above the spring on the plate. I forgot what is it called at the moment but it is a circle bearing that makes sure the spring does not move when the wheel rotates. There is only one bearing on the strut. I dropped my car and that bearing was bad. I just replaced it and the noise stopped. That was my problem, might be yours as well. The part was only 25 from the dealer.
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