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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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How would i go about to fix some rust holes in the middle of trunk and hood? these started out as paint chips from rocks in the highway now they are holes the size of us quarters that have rusted. note this isnt a honda but I would like to know if there was a way i could fix this myself without payinf $400 for a body shop to do it.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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It depends on how you want it to look. If you have no body work experience, and you want it to look factory, have a bs do it.

If you want to tackle it yourself, post pics and I'll try to guide you along.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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I could care less how it turns out as long as i dont spend too much money on it its my moms car and shes ok with it like that but would like to tackle it myself gain some experience.
I will post pics when i get to the car.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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sorry to revive but i just brought this little project back got caught up doing other things.




I have like 4 of these on the trunk and 2 on the hood about the size of a quarter.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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from my past autobody experience and my understanding, theres no good way to repair rust without cutting it out and welding new sheet metal in because once rust begins, its almost impossible to stop it or to keep it from spreading. If its a body panel thats easily replacable like a trunk, hood, door, etc, you're usually better off just replacing it with a used one that doesnt have any rust.


Modified by EASY101 at 5:25 PM 10/9/2007
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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bump for a little guidance
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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you could knock it down to bare steel. see how much metal you have left to work with and go from there. etch primer, and scuff and filler, and primer again. that is, if you ahve alot of metal left
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kiddcarbuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you could knock it down to bare steel. see how much metal you have left to work with and go from there. etch primer, and scuff and filler, and primer again. that is, if you ahve alot of metal left</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have I would say all the metal left i can rub my figure around that and it feels as if a few coats of paint would make it even since its on top of the car that rust is just from when it rains and stuff not like a rear quarter where the water puddles there and the snow and stuff.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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metal glaze it and block it into the panel, see what you can do then
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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whats metal glaze? Searched it and nothing came up.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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evercoat metal glaze. better than bondo. then you can finish with evercoat rage filler. google it, should pop right up
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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sand it down to bare metal if can using a DA, then just use glaze, when you sand make sure you sand all the rust away. If its that bad where it basically through the metal, cut it out and weld a new piece in. but i don't know what are you capabilities in auto body, so... and if you even have a welder.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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don't bother with a DA, just use a wire wheel and block your filler down by hand. when you're done blocking feather out your 180 hand scratches with 180 on a DA, then feather out your 180 with 320 overlapping about an inch or two before priming.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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i dont even have a DA is it crucial?
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont even have a DA is it crucial?</TD></TR></TABLE>no its not, its jsut quicker, you can block all of it
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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You need to convert the rust first. Sand it down, you will notice there is pinholes still. Buy a rust converter, then do all your body work on it.... If you put glaze or bondo over the sanded area, it will start to peel up...

Por15 works awesome for that sorta thing.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: How to fix rust holes? (TypeRobert)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry to revive but i just brought this little project back got caught up doing other things.




I have like 4 of these on the trunk and 2 on the hood about the size of a quarter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Knock the rust areas like that down as much as possible and use Metal Prep on it. Metal Prep is an acid that kills rust. I use it and works great for me, just follow the direction and you should be good. If you don't follow directions Metal Prep will make more rust on the bare metal areas. Rust is like cancer and will come back if not properly taken care of.

Here is more info on Metal Prep.
http://www.halonmarketing.com/...p.php
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