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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Default What DSS old Stage 5's aren't supposed to look like...

This happened to me at the BOTI MIR event. This is the 2nd DSS old stage 5 that took a **** on me on the track. These were both remans straight from DSS. By no means am I trying to say DSS is ****, i'm just saying don't buy their remans..lol. Although I think it had something to do with my shitty axle geometry because of my H22 swap.











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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Ouch, how much power were you making? The old level 5's are now sorta like the level 3.9's. Susp. geometry does have a lot to do with keeping an axle in the car stock or high perf. parts. Seems like the 5.9's might be next on the list for you
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Wow, pretty tough to break those! I've got those in my car, 3 years or so on them so far, still kickin'.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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i'm making 680 hp. i wish i could get the 5.9s but i just can't afford that now.

i'm jealous of integras, they have perfectly straight axles that make them much less likely to break.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Dang man. Crazy axle carnage.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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ouch ...you running a traction bar? what size slick and rim combo?how low is the car?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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i recently thought i broke my older stage 5's and after getting it back to the shop i was later surpsied the half shaft snapped clean in half.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikey3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm making 680 hp. i wish i could get the 5.9s but i just can't afford that now.

i'm jealous of integras, they have perfectly straight axles that make them much less likely to break.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you should be jealous of B series... and switch to one while your at it just playin mikey
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedJeff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you should be jealous of B series... and switch to one while your at it just playin mikey</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL..I read in the hybrid forum a few months ago that some dude found a simple solution to the axel angle problem..Cant find it though.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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nice!!!!
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:39 AM
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wow, that looks like the same type of joint we use with the nitro driveline (cage/*****/inner race) im actually suprised to see that broken, we have been abusing our stuff for over 2 years now.

it looks like the splines on your setup are stripped out ? i cant really tell from the pics ?
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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i dont understand why the mount kits avaialbe for that swap make the axle angles suck so bad? a few years back we made our own mounts. we put the axles in the trans and in the hubs while the engine was dangling in the engine bay on an engine hoist. then we made engine mounts that positioned the axles damn near perfectly straight. unfortunately i dont have any pictures of the axle angles.

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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its funny this is back from the dead because i was pulling my knuckles off to put extended wheel studs in, and found out that the inner passenger side is broken too. right now all 3 axles are on their way back to DSS to get some chromoly cages put in. i hope that fixes this problem but i'm really bummed that this keeps happening. i feel like its a problem that can't be solved w/o moving the motor back to get better axle angles.

dturbo - the splines didn't twist. the cages are the only things that broke

h22civic - no traction bars, 25" slick, and the ride height is pretty high to fit the slicks under the fender.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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the no traction bars might have played a roll in this destruction, with the violant movement the tires/suspension is going through. are you planning on getting some traction bars on the beast ?


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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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yes there are plans for traction bars
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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yea def some traction bars ,lighten the bitch up some and i would stick with a 13" slick and a twin disc helps alot.ride it out (preload the clutch)G/L
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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I had stage 2 DSS on my Gti and they where crap. Broke one in less then 2 months... They are built like harbor freight tools... I would recommend Raxles.com he says they wont break. I had them and love them
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGTi18t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had stage 2 DSS on my Gti and they where crap. Broke one in less then 2 months... They are built like harbor freight tools... I would recommend Raxles.com he says they wont break. I had them and love them</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would hardly make a generalized statement about DSS axles like that, you obviously don't realize how many thousands of people use them with 100% success.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGTi18t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had stage 2 DSS on my Gti and they where crap. Broke one in less then 2 months... They are built like harbor freight tools... I would recommend Raxles.com he says they wont break. I had them and love them</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow 6 posts and the fact that you drive a VW must mean your statement is true
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGTi18t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had stage 2 DSS on my Gti and they where crap. Broke one in less then 2 months... They are built like harbor freight tools... I would recommend Raxles.com he says they wont break. I had them and love them</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you go over the power level that the axles are designed for? The level 2's are just a tad stronger than oem's IMO so any huge increase in power and you really should have gotten a higher level. I will keep to myself about raxles... lol.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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we have the old 5's on our car and broke them quite a few times already.. switching to the 5.9's now

they were fine with 650+..now that we are in the high 700 low 800 range they arent holding
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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&lt;-----old stage 5's for 3 years.


hell ive been 9.8@158 on stock axles. i can't keep a tranny in the car (4th gear) but i can make a set of axles last!!
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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lol.. we are the opposite. didnt break a tranny for like 3 years, but went through like 3 sets of axles this year.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigTom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you go over the power level that the axles are designed for? The level 2's are just a tad stronger than oem's IMO so any huge increase in power and you really should have gotten a higher level. I will keep to myself about raxles... lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when u pay 800 shipped for axles and ran them for 2 months at 350whp and they break. I call them garbage.. go over to vortex u will find a ton of people saying the same thing...

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Wow 6 posts and the fact that you drive a VW must mean your statement is true</TD></TR></TABLE>

please i've been a member since 01, im hardly a newb
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuickGTi18t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
when u pay 800 shipped for axles and ran them for 2 months at 350whp and they break. I call them garbage.. go over to vortex u will find a ton of people saying the same thing...

please i've been a member since 01, im hardly a newb </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was on my other name somehow... I keep forgetting to had the . in 1.8t

Or maybe DSS doesn't like the VW crowd
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