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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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I have a friend of mine who's selling a LS for 2500$ i was wondering if that was a great deal. I was just wondering because, I have a EK and I want to swap a motor, and I figured I can just buy the LS and take the motor from it. I know it's a LS it bites, but possibly build a ls vtec who knows?

Anyways leave only a serious opinion no need for a flamefest! If its a bad idea just say it.

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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LS VTEC swaps are very expensive most of the time and take alot of time and effort to do right. if i were you i would use that 2500 and put it towards a b16 or b18c1 swap...you would be way more satified in the long run i beleive. IF you are looking to boost the LS block is a good one though.
Just some food for thought.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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if thats what you want to do . it makes sence to me...then yu can just sell the integra shell...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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that's what im thinking :] buy the car 2500$ sell the shell take the motor. i understand if you do the ls vtec wrong, **** will screw you over.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSLEEPER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS VTEC swaps are very expensive most of the time and take alot of time and effort to do right. if i were you i would use that 2500 and put it towards a b16 or b18c1 swap...you would be way more satified in the long run i beleive. IF you are looking to boost the LS block is a good one though.
Just some food for thought.
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No actually they are pretty easy. An Ls vtec swap can be done for pretty cheap. You just have to look hard for the parts. I bet your could get the head and everything else for the price you sell the shell.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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buy the integra, buy an eg, swap the integra motor with the eg's and swap mounts yada yadda yadda and sell the integra, friend did that count les times
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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or just rock the integra...whatever you decide to do good luck man....
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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Man, this is tempting haha. I told myself I was gonna get out of it, since I lived in CA you know cops are always out there popping hoods. I was planning to just get a DC5, but seeing this deal come up, it's really tempting.

I have a EK already, I had this guide teaching you how to build up a b20 and stuff, but I lost the guides. I'll keep my eye out for them. Don't worry I won't be doing this alone
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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You live in Cali? Forget it. You will probally just end up with a bunch more problems.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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I was planning to just get it swapped & bar'd and smogged and so on, but I heard you can't really get it bar'd if you swap heads and such.

I guess a guy can dream .
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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Why do LS's suck now?
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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well, i've heard they sucked compared to gsr's, but hell compared to a sohc? i don't really think they suck. they have mad potential.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK9Tune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i've heard they sucked compared to gsr's, but hell compared to a sohc? i don't really think they suck. they have mad potential. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a stock B18B with EM1 airbox in my hatch, and it's all I could ever want until I have a second vehicle. It's got torque, it's got fuel economy, it's got low compression, it's cheap, it's easy to maintain.

It's a daily-driver's dream.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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oh really? hm. well there are rumors going around where cops pop hoods open and even if you have receipts for the motor they still smash it. no idea, word on the streets.

anyways, is the process for getting it bar'd gonna be pretty painful?
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK9Tune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh really? hm. well there are rumors going around where cops pop hoods open and even if you have receipts for the motor they still smash it. no idea, word on the streets.

anyways, is the process for getting it bar'd gonna be pretty painful?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's pretty easy if you've got a solid swap that is the same age or newer than your car, the correct OBD, no codes, and can pass emissions.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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welp, im out of luck. my EK is a 97, and the acura is 95. by the way, i was doing some research, the ls is about 142 HP right? hm. i'd like to see numbers on some other EK's that have ls vtec.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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oh you little ****, i see your sig quick 500 bucks? yea you can haggle that guy lower make even more, but weve done that with shells, like hed get a shell of here for like 150 bucks then wed wheel it to my garage, wheel my k24 project outside and get the eg shell running in 4 hours and toss the interior bits from the integra in there and sell wither car and rock the quicker one
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do LS's suck now?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, that's the same thing I'm wondering.

The LS is like the best motor out there IMO. Maybe not the smartest to do an all-motor build with, but long trans = great gas mileage, it's only got like 4 or 5 lb/ft tq. less than the GSR, for like 1/3 of the price.

It's basically got the same power as the GSR - only difference is the more aggressive cam, better head design, VTEC, etc. etc. - but the only thing that makes the HP 142 of the LS, and 180 of the GSR is the RPM redline. In term sof torque, sheer, phsycail power, they're virtually identical.

LS/VTEC is a waste unless you plan on swapping out internals (either low comp for boost, or high comp for all motor).

LS-T is the cheapest B series boost you can do, and on stock internals can hold damn hear as much HP as the GSR.

LS = Win - ALWAYS.

@ OP:
I say buy it, you'll have the mounts, linkage, ECU, everything you need to swap it in. Then you can sell the 'teg as a shell or hang onto it - whatever.

It depends on the friend...did he really abuse it, or was this his baby?

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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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my buddy has an ek with an fully built,high compression, non vtec ls. tuned and dynod at 233 to the wheels . it pulls so hard and its easy to maintain. he loves it. it cost him around 6-6500 for all the motor bulid.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmiller219 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy has an ek with an fully built,high compression, non vtec ls. tuned and dynod at 233 to the wheels . it pulls so hard and its easy to maintain. he loves it. it cost him around 6-6500 for all the motor bulid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I &lt;3 the LS.

Then again, I &lt;3 the D series and everybody seems to hate them too.

One Q though:
Why did he build up the motor if he's only making 233whp? The stock internals can take that more than happily.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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he was going to boost and spray just for a track car but never really finished it so he just drives it now and is happy
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmiller219 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he was going to boost and spray just for a track car but never really finished it so he just drives it now and is happy</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah, I C.

That setup is a nice setup as-is - even without the turbo, maybe with a 100 shot for a track day or something.

Very nice.

EDIT:
The LS ownz, everybody always bitches about the trans but the trans is just about the same ratios as the EX/Si trans on '92-'95 civics.

It's not long, it's just that the B16 and ITR are just ridiculously short.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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yea i want to do the same in my ek. but he was like no do gsr so i dont know i have a k20a2 but thats to much work to install plus i love the b series.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k powered ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh you little ****, i see your sig quick 500 bucks? yea you can haggle that guy lower make even more, but weve done that with shells, like hed get a shell of here for like 150 bucks then wed wheel it to my garage, wheel my k24 project outside and get the eg shell running in 4 hours and toss the interior bits from the integra in there and sell wither car and rock the quicker one </TD></TR></TABLE>

What the expletive are you talking about? My friend is selling the integra for 3000$, he would sell it to me for 2500$ but I don't want to deal with the bar etc.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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if you wanna go lsv, save your time of going through the hastle of trying to sell a shell and just buy my ls block. $150
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