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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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are all 4wd wagons mpfi already?? i found one and want to make sure it is mpfi before i head all the way over to the other side of the island (kinda a long drive). thanks
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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I believe so but the real time 4wd isn't reliable.
have you seen the motor,throtle body should be
pointing towards the pass side not up.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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nah, i havent gotten a chance to see the car yet, guy told me 'its fuel injected...thats all i know'. he doesnt know much about the car at all..he mentioned the SL gear so i am assuming it is 4wd not sure yet.

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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rd91SiB18ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe so but the real time 4wd isn't reliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

umm... ??? I dont know what you have based this on, but ive never heard or experienced anything unreliable with the realtime 4wd system which is both basic and virtually foolproof.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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Your sedan looks cool,but my friens dad bought 2 real time
wagons for driving in the snow both had the real time fixed under warrentee.
Thats the only reason,I want a wagon for my ls swap in my shed.
Super sleeper.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaJDMimports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah, i havent gotten a chance to see the car yet, guy told me 'its fuel injected...thats all i know'. he doesnt know much about the car at all..he mentioned the SL gear so i am assuming it is 4wd not sure yet.

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If its has a SL gear then it is 4wd and it will be fuel injected with the D16a6 in it. As far as "unreliable" goes mine has 173xxx miles on it with lots and lots of abuse both in dirt and snow and it works great!
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Another question...it needs a new clutch. are these teh same clutch's as the civic/crx or something entirely different? arent these hydro???? thanks
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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Do you know what was fixed? The 4wd system is so basic, i dunno what could possibly cause the 4wd system to fail.. The front wheels are connected directly to the back by like, 2 driveshafts and a dif.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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no i mean the actual clutch is bad....difficult to change gears. i think it is actually the throw out bearing.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Well i bought the wagon today....it is the throwout bearing. anyone know if installing it is the same as a 2wd version cause i have done that before.

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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaJDMimports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no i mean the actual clutch is bad....difficult to change gears. i think it is actually the throw out bearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry i was talking to the guy before you. You should post up some pics of the new car.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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well i drove it from the airport area to waikiki(where i can park it at my work) which was about 10 miles, and i think i am gonna have to get used to the shifter. I accidentally went into SL starting off twice and MAN i need to replace that trowout bearing...makes it difficult to drive. I will post some pics tomorrow or thursday if i can remember to bring my camera to work, thanks for the input.


BTW mpfi and 4wd (thats the only two reasons i bought it )
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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Super low gear shouldn't be easy but not difficult to get into gear.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Yeah ive never accidently gone into SL
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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its kinda like the placement of the shifter is sorta wierd...and my shifter is hella loose too. like on my rex it seems like if i am totally leaving it still, the placement of the shifter is like this


1_3_5
)))S((( &lt;neutral posisiton of shifter
2_4_R

on the wagon it seems like this

SL_1_3_5
)))))S(((( &lt;neutral position of shifter
___2_4_R


(sorry for all the wierd charachters in the diagram but for some reason it didint like spaces...hopefullyit makes sense )
so it seems un-centered kinda??? i think it needs some adjustment. and it is WAY too easy to just go to SL for some reason...its kinda funny actually cause my wife was following me and was like "why did it take you so long to get started sometimes" she was making fun of my new ride all night long. Funny thing is she LIKES my crx but thinks this wagon is BUTT ugly. It'll grow on her.

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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have any pics got to http://www.hondacivicwagon.com lots of info on there
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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SL-|1|3|5|
----|--(0)--|
----|2|4|R|

Thats the best i can do to describe how mine feels. If your in nuetral and push it all the way to the left, you should feel it hit a wall, just like if you were pushing it all the way to the right. Except when you push harder you will feel it fall through the gate and then you can push it up/foreward to engage SL.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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yeah, that is what i figured it should feel like but it does not...goes straight to the left and can go in SL with out much trouble. It is really loose too!?!?! hope that isnt a major issue. anyway, on with the pics





She isnt in the best of shape but body is pretty ok compared to my rex. Her name is 'Rhonda the Honda' i didnt name her, the previous owner did, but i think i am gonna keep it

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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BTW i am almost positive it is a hatch hood and not a wagon...doesnt quite look right/close right and it has a dpfi diagram on the inside of the hood (mine is already mpfi) and explains the belts and stuff without power steering and Rhonda's got power steering

Oh well....the hood aint in teh best of shape, but i can start looking for a replacement. This weekend i am gonna start tearing down all the crappy restrictive air box and get rid of the stuffs i dont need....it has an a/c compressor and i may keep it and see if it will cool. It has no freon in it now, but someone coverted to r134a already. Prolly has a leak, but that i can fix that. And i am gonna start figuring out how i am gonna get a place to replace the throw out bearing. I only have street parking, and having a garage in Hawaii is like being a millionaire i'll figure something out. Anyone on Oahu that i can borrow their garage for a FULL weekend?? HAHA thought i would try.

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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It seems to fit well for a hatch hood. I think that maybe its just from a non-RT wagon.

Looks sweet though, keep us updated. Any plans for some 4wd'ing? :D
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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well my rex is for sale, and i plan on either mini me/turbo or dohc zc n/a. after i replace the throw out bearing (i'm gonna repalce the clutch at the same time BTW...might as well while i am down there) i'm gonna drive it as a DD for a while and see how she holds up and make a decision on the mini me or dohc after that. surprisingly it was pulling pretty well besides the fact shifting was so difficult w/ the TO bearing. the motor only has 126k on it...aint much. my rex had 247k before i finally replaced the motor (sohc zc ) we'll see how she does. i have been looking for a 4wd for a couple years now and always seemed to come accross a dumd 2wd wagon, now i have one and i really dont know what i am gonna do 4wd wise. no offroading, mostly auto-x and realy just driving the poopy out of her. IDK, we'll see. BTW their is a 4wd automatic?? i think i may have just found one of those too!!! i may get it as the DD and tinker with this one for a while
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~sp33~ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SL-|1|3|5|
----|--(0)--|
----|2|4|R|

Thats the best i can do to describe how mine feels. If your in nuetral and push it all the way to the left, you should feel it hit a wall, just like if you were pushing it all the way to the right. Except when you push harder you will feel it fall through the gate and then you can push it up/foreward to engage SL.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

It shouldn't be easy but not difficult

SL__1_3_5
)))))S(((( &lt;neutral position of shifter
__ _2_4_R
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Well i am gonna take apart the shifter and see if anything can be tightened up any. anyone know if you can use the teggy center console/arm rest like in the hatch on teh wagon?? thanks
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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also, anyone know of a good seat swap catidate?? i though about crx si's or ek seats. anyone know of a good set for the height of the wagon?? i already have heard the del sol..but i want something older school design maybe.
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I dont think the integra console lines up eh, i think that the wagon console is too tall. The 4wd's came in an automatic too yeah.
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