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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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i have a ls b18b block i have wiesco pistons, eagle rods, golden eagle sleeves, arp head bolts,etc and i want to run about 18 to 25 psi and my bud said i should get a type r head and that it would make a huge difference in horse power and i just wanted some honest feedback on the subject cause i was just planning to use the ls head and if the type r is better were could i find one???? thx
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Leave the head along and just boost it IMO.

if you want to go through the hassle of an ls/vtec build, it all depend on what you want.

A stock ls is good for 300whp in stock form. Much beyond that and dd becomes a hassle IMO.

I'm sure someone will argue that having the b18c5 head will make for a "better' powerband.

if you decide to do the ls/vtec swap, just do it right so It's reliable.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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well with the ls head i am ordering cams, camgears, valves, retainers, and a skunk 2 intake manifold is that a good setup?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Sounds good to me. I'm not an expert on boost, but i've met plenty of people who make killer numbers on LS heads.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J_M_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well with the ls head i am ordering cams, camgears, valves, retainers, and a skunk 2 intake manifold is that a good setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>

with that and porting from someone who knows what they are doing.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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i live in a small town and i want me eg to be the fastest car in town the turbo setup i got will let me run up to 28psi and in a fully gutted out eg with a cage its going to be sick i just hope the head can handle 23 to 25psi when i have all my head stuff done
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Ls + 30lbs + good tune = Holy %$#&

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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i want to bang gears and break axles
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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stay with stock axles unless you plan on doing tranny upgrades, its better to brake an axle than a diff. also type R heads are over rated, a b16 head is basicly the same thing, valve train, cams and a slite port is the only difference. i say still with the ls head build it and port and plolish and youll be good to go just make sure you get a good tune that makes all the difference.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J_M_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to bang gears and break axles </TD></TR></TABLE>

so you want to show off and do stupid ****?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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so you want to show off and do stupid ****?</TD></TR></TABLE>
for stupid sh*t
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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If you are shooting for under &lt;350whp I wouldnt even mess with cams, cam gears, manifold, or a port/polish. Just get a 3angle valve job with springs/retainers/seals.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Get stock axles and get lifetime warranty!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get stock axles and get lifetime warranty! </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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On a stock ls a b16 head would be worth 40hp. On a boosted one Im sure itd be worth more. Once you put vtec and boost togather youll be very happy (I love the sound of vtec). I just sold a complete b16 head (usdm) for 500 bucks.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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here is my opinion. expletive the ls head and doing all that work to it, get a b16 head, or GSr head, both are good i like B16 tho. But just doing that head swap like he said is around 40+ hp....you wont gain that with cams ported head and what not on the LS head...Id just get vtec head, boost that for a lil till you get a lil more money...and then put all those mods in that. Unless you arent looking for HIGH hp and rpms...im addicted to RPMs... and boost..lol..But like they all said, the LS is perfect also. thats just how I like to do thing. good luck with decisions...look at it either way tho...BOOST IS BOOST!!!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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LSTURBOFTW
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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ls vtec jobs are messy though, unless its done right ur gonna dump a bunch of money trying to keep fixing oil leaks and such.

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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ls vtec jobs are messy though, unless its done right ur gonna dump a bunch of money trying to keep fixing oil leaks and such.

Never done it but my bud did it and he had no problems. Maybe if I did it this may be true. Just get your facts straight and plan it shouldnt be to hard.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tjames8864 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls vtec jobs are messy though, unless its done right ur gonna dump a bunch of money trying to keep fixing oil leaks and such.

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messsy? if the person has any clue what they are doing, and knows how to read tech articles on here..its easy as jerking off
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DecentCivicZ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

..its easy as jerking off</TD></TR></TABLE>

Way to make fun of the handicapped, I was born without opposable thumbs
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Way to make fun of the handicapped, I was born without opposable thumbs
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hahaha
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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messsy? if the person has any clue what they are doing, and knows how to read tech articles on here..its easy as jerking off</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha.. thats funny. thats a good quote.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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lol lsvtec is a eazy job to do. i would go type r if u can just my 2 cents
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20vteclsintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol lsvtec is a eazy job to do. i would go type r if u can just my 2 cents </TD></TR></TABLE>

go with a type r and just trash his setup now? hype Rs are overrated.

when just comparing heads the type r head is far superior to an LS head. when youre boosting though you can make great #s with the LS so just stick with that.
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