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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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I was running at the track and after a pass i turned off onto the return road and the passenger axle popped out of the tranny. We towed it back to the pitts and jacked it up, i checked the axle out, seemed fine, it popped right back into the diff and was tight, so i thought it just might have not been in properly as we had the tranny out the night before, so i went up for another pass. At the end of the run the same thing happened, the axle popped out, so we just put it on the trailer and brought it home. Dissasembled the tranny and found this.........





I'm not quite sure how it happened, but i called Kaaz to see if i could buy the top part that was broken, and they said no, but after me kind of bugging them, they said that he would take one off the shelf and take it apart and sell the pieces as they could sell the kit inside for a rebuild kit and sell me the case to make up the difference, sounds fine right, well i never heard back from them, and i've sent a wack of emails and called a few times and no response. Even emailed Kaaz japan and no one got back to me. The stupid thing about it all is that they said that they have seen it before with the B-series units and judging by the way it broke free, it looks like there is a problem with the design or material process.

Anyway, i have no diff, i am running the stock diff now and it sucks, spins waaaay too much, so if anyone has a fuct Kaaz unit or even just a piece of the case to get me back going, let me know, i don't want to have to spend $800 on a new complete when mine works fine. The part number of the diff is DBH-1832

A buddy of mine also broke a Kaaz diff in his integra H22 turbo and had no luck getting warranty or repairs done, would have cost more in the end to get it fixed, so he bought a different setup. I even took mine to a machine shop and they said they could repair it, but could not guarantee it would last, said it would break again.................any ideas
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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I gave up on Kaaz a LOOONG time ago....The axles pop out alot,the clunking noise never seems to go away,lots of torque steer,and there customer service sucks..I had about two of them more then 5yrs ago and sold them for like 200 bucks...

Once you go Quaife there is nothing better!!!
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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buy a quaife and never worry again
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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I agree, you can't go wrong with a Quaife. I've had one for over a year with no problems! Sorry to hear about your diff though....
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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same thing broke on a car i know too. he hit second gear at the track and that was it
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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QUAIFE 100% IF YOU NEED ONE AT A CHEAP PRICE WE WILL HOOK IT UP.. IF YOU WANT OBX THATS BETTER THEN THE KAZZ...
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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Well i have to figure something out, last trip out with the stock diff ran 12.08 @ 121, spinning the slicks half-way down the track, 2.3-2.5 60fts
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:28 AM
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Buy OBX
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aggressive Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I gave up on Kaaz a LOOONG time ago....The axles pop out alot,the clunking noise never seems to go away,lots of torque steer,and there customer service sucks..I had about two of them more then 5yrs ago and sold them for like 200 bucks...

Once you go Quaife there is nothing better!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Had the same problem a few years ago then we restack the clutch pack to make it less aggressive and that fixed it.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PSI GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i have to figure something out, last trip out with the stock diff ran 12.08 @ 121, spinning the slicks half-way down the track, 2.3-2.5 60fts </TD></TR></TABLE>
Need more info on your setup? Suspension, tire pressure, alignment? I ran 1.7's on a open diff. numerous times. 2.3 is shitty!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Best part of it all is the guy from Kaaz said the only diffs they have a problem with are B-series diffs, but yet they haven't fixed the problem...
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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doesnt look like they are going to from the looks of it.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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24.5" slicks, ETD traction bars, i had stock integra shock combos on the front for slick clearance, and the rear was stock with lowering springs. The motor has 412 whp and 286 wtq SAE, the car is a 2000 civic sedan, i was running 15 psi in the slicks then a buddy of mine ran 12 and 10 psi but the track conditions were different, i ran a higher MPH but it was different tracks. I have to find out something before the 11th of August, its the big import event up here
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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all my internals of my KAAZ went to **** after 3 months. this was a true street car making maybe 180WHP if that. also at the time i was running DRs. i have pics still up on my imagestation. POS KAAZ LSD.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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i had a kaaz in a b16 tranny on my 2.1L n/a car.....it lasted OK for me...i pulled some 1.9 60's on 185/65/14's....but, as soon as i sold the tranny...it lasted another week and took a **** on the guy i sold it too. i felt REAL shitty.....but, if everyone else has these issues, it makes me feel not-so-shitty
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buy a quaife and never worry again </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've had my quaife since 1999 with no problem's.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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I was gonna get one for my 240 but after hearing all this **** there is no way in hell. Even if they do only have problems with the B-series.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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the same exact problem happened to my friends OEM B16 LSD.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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Wow that sucks,did you have alot of wheel hop.
How much power are you making.not getin
one of those,pobably going to get a type r
tranny and call it good.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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SOHC Z6 on 100 shot, 22x8x13 M&H's at 11 psi, launching at 7800 rpm with a 12 lb flywheel......

oops........



Ray quoted me $275 + S&H for a clutch pack, or I can do a OBX for $350 shipped.

Of the 18+ OBX's I've installed, no breakage yet.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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looks like someone should email kaaz us and japan a link to this thread and see if they will resond to all the neg info. this will effect their buisness that's for sure.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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A stock Type R dif will outlast a Kaaz dif hands down.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Yeah...the Kaaz is just not drag material. I have done them for a handful of roadrace guys and no complaints but, when it comes to drag racing...they just don't hold up to well. They will also agree when you ask them. Get a Quaife and never look back. You can't beat their warranty. Don't cheap out. I am sure you have spent plenty of money on the engine...you can at least spend half of that on the transmission which is equally just as important...think about it. I may have a Kaaz case...let me go look!
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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when i first got my swap it had a Kaaz in it and was definitely not that streetable or enjoyable at low speed cornering but after it got going it wasn't bad. pulling in and out of my driveway and parking spots was murder...nose-hop and LOUD clunking. OBX's aren't bad for the price...but i'd see if i can get my hands on a Type R or a Quaife(what i have now).
after more than 7 years on 1 Quaife ATB with NO issues...i know if i have any diff. problems again in the future....i know where my money will go.

i dunno if anybody else had any problems with the OBX diff. but a buddy of mine had one and then he busted something and we had to pull the axles...but couldn't get the axles out of the OBX equipped tranny. we ended up pulling the axles after the tranny got out of the car...that was not a fun time.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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I have ran two different Kaaz diffs. Daily drove one of them for 2 years on a 200whp B-series engine. I know after two years the lock-up on my first diff wasn't as aggressive, I figured my clutch plates where a little worn. Quaife/OBX isn't aggressive enough for my driving style. I really want to try the new ATS LSD, all my friends who track their cars swear by it
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