I though some of you might like to see what type of stuff goes on in a waterjet shop.So here are some pics of the shop and stuff that i cut.

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shop pics




3 inch thick steel rings





Viper V10 flanges


Thanks for looking and when i get more i will update.

Tom


Modified by 89crxhf at 2:59 PM 7/13/2007

 

what did your omax cost? last time I had one quoted I was near 170k with the zero taper head

 

my large machine which will hold a 80 inch x 160 inch plate cost around 200k
and my small machine which will hold a 60 inch x 120 inch plate cost me 240k but i bought several accessories with that machine such as the solid removal system, 600 lbs hopper, precision optical locator and the zero taper head and many extra spare parts

 

Bad. ***.

 

 

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and my small machine which will hold a 60 inch x 120 inch plate cost me 240k but i bought several accessories with that machine such as the solid removal system, 600 lbs hopper, precision optical locator and the zero taper head and many extra spare parts</TD></TR></TABLE>

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parts look good, we get some parts water jet before machining, always look like *** though and need the profiles re-machined. Water jet stuff is something I know little about, what kind of finish do you achieve on the profiles, and how true to the profile is it? say on those flanges (similar shapes and thickness to the pieces we have done)

It doesn't look terrible on the 3" ones, better than what our local place ships us on 1/2"

 

nice

 

I used to use the Shop here for cutting . But there prices are more exspensive then some of the guys with CNC's here. The cuts come out nice on a Waterjet but drill your own holes over i find the water jet tends to cone in on bolt holes.

 

89crxhf said he has zero taper heads on the water jets. What happens with water jet, is as you cut thicker material, the water stream begins to taper away from the line you are cutting (away from desired lined, toward the stock). On thin material it is not a problem, but as you cut thicker stock (i.e. the 3" rings) you can really see the taper the end where the water is exiting. To solve this, a zero taper head, actually rotates the stream of water to eliminate the taper. The water stream is tipped towards the part to force the edge of the tapering water stream to still follow the same profile. With a zero taper head, the holes in a flange should be cylindrical instead of conical.

~SKY~

 

thats some cool stuff! it's awesome to be able to cut such thick steel so easily. Do you cut other materials?

 

rlockwood -- you can get many different finishes, i could get the 3 inch ring smooth as glass when they come but its going to cost even more than it does now. bottom line is if the parts you get look like *** then the shop cutting the parts is running there machine way to fast.

skyman-- you are totally correct there the zero taper head kicks ***

Bailhatch-- i can cut whatever type of material you can think of titanium, stone,aluminum, concrete, you name it and it can be cut

 

20mm depleated uranium slugs? I have hunting needs...

I've heard that you don't want to weld a waterjet'd edge due to some small amount of abrasives being deposited into the metal. Is that true?


btw, they make a special anti-rust oil, I forget the name, but I think someone needs some...

 

HiProfile- as long as its not going to jack my **** up i will give it shot at cutting. I dont know about the welding thing there are plenty of my turbo flange that got weld up and i have never heard of that i have even been told that my flange welded better than some of the cnc flanges that they had cut. If your tig welding it your going to prepping all the surfaces any ways before you weld, mig wont matter as i have mig welded many waterjet cut parts myself.

 

There are no issues on welding on tom's stuff, but like he said everything is prep'd before welding.

 

so u can make enough money to profit over 400+thousand dollar machines?

Do u do work in mass quanities or something?

Whats the deal?

 

I make enough money, my machine are far from paid off as I have only been in business 2 years now and i have 3 more years to pay off 1 machine and 4 more years to pay off the 2nd machine. I make enough every month to pay all my suppliers and all my bills and machine payments it will be atleast 3 more years till i actually start turning a large profit as most of the money is being reinvested into the company to help it grow.

I dont turn work down i will take 1pc orders alway up to large quanity production runs, i mean money is money i dont care where it comes from as long as it come in. Ideally i want large jobs like the 3 inch thick steel rings all the time but that just aint going to happen.

dont get me wrong i struggled just to stay alive the 1st year but now that my name is out there I've got more work than i can handle and i have to run 2 shifts now. the money is definitly there it just takes time

 

The 1st year of business is all about writeoffs and getting established. The 2nd is for working the kinks out & establishing 'connections', the 3rd is for pushing forward towards profit ...If you don't encouter Murphy's Law.

The government allows you to depreciate equipment you use at a specified rate, which can be written off in certain ways. The catch is you can't legally sell a depreciated item for more than it was paid for minus the depreciated amount...or along those lines. In other words, its like getting money for the equipment now for selling it cheap later. There's a big reason businesses pay 40% and beyond in taxes...


BTW I was kidding about the uranium, it was just the most dense exotic metal I could think of. I know the majority of waterjet'd flanges will weld fine, as you usually won't weld on the cut section - maybe a tad inside the runners for a manifold. It was just something I heard, I just didn't know if it was true.

 

thats def. some real cool ****


If there is anything u can tell us about ur busniess and how it all works, ill eatup every word.

 

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We cut titanium weld patches with our 5-axis waterjet so I can vouch that the welding rumor is not true.

 

I went down and visited Tom's shop myself, very cool guys, excellent machines! had cut several oddball t3 flanges, aveo head flanges (dont ask... customer order) and a whole array of bracket pieces for said aveo's... excellent finish, and all it takes is some finishing to get the perfect weld.

Good job Tom!

Jimmy
Grounding RaceFab

 

supercoupe- what do you want know? i dont mind answering any question you got post em up or pm me

the original whitey- what type waterjet do you guys have?

jimmy how did all those pieces work out for? got any finished pics of them? i cant believe some one would want to hop up there aveo

 

for Tom... excellent parts and communication.

 

thanks rotary i should have the protype piece out to you sometime tomorrow

 

customers love them!

Thanks TOM!!!!

 

what are those used on?