Ive been getting quite a bit PM's over this product...................i had some pics of it but i dont have any handy right now but heres a link to it.

http://www.professional-produc...a.php

Anywho, I was using the SFI 90050 and it is a **** poor design, and they do not have ANY timing marks on them at all, I would not recommend this product to anyone. Save your money and buy an ATI!

I used this on my car for about 1 month and the damper came apart on the dyno and I was really lucky that it did not mess up anything internally. When i took the pulley off as you can see there 6 bolts holding it together and only 3 were still on the other three were finger tight. (Prior to installing it I checked all the bolts and they WERE all good and tight.)

Now when I called Professional Products and I explained the problem, they said that they have a lifetime warranty and changed the design on them and the problem is fixed. Just send us your old one and we will replace it. I asked them if they could supply me one that had some timing marks on it? they replied with "hondas do not have timing marks on the dampers". i responded with "how bout i send you back your SFI damper and a factory honda pulley and then you tell if they have any marks on them?"

Couple of weeks went by and they sent me the same style damper that i had before with once again no timing marks. I did not reinstall

So as for me with Professional Products

 

you are lucky that it didnt break a motor. Those, well I would not even call it a dampener, are junk.

 

I'm gonna back up Terry on this one. I was tuning the car when the damper came apart, and I watched him assemble the motor and torque everything.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm gonna back up Terry on this one. I was tuning the car when the damper came apart, and I watched him assemble the motor and torque everything. </TD></TR></TABLE>


It's funny cuz I posted BUT backed it out!!!!!


I had a problem with teh Fluidampr Race Pulley it jacked my crank and twin disc discs up! Fluidampr stated intsaller error, now 1.5 years later I find out they had alot of them having problems and doing the same thing. I think the ATI is ok though....

 

I had a friend that was breaking oil pumps. He bought one of these dampers and broke them about every third or fourth dyno pull.

 

i got the ati thank god. it hasnt gave me any problem yet have about 20 passes on it so far.

sorry for the bad luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL IMPORT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got the ati thank god. it hasnt gave me any problem yet have about 20 passes on it so far.

sorry for the bad luck</TD></TR></TABLE>


its all good now that has been back bout a year now but just so everyone knows, they are no good

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a friend that was breaking oil pumps. He bought one of these dampers and broke them about every third or fourth dyno pull.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can vouch for that, it was on my dyno.

 

I have one and havent had any problems...

also... as a side note, I KNOW that they know that there are timing marks.. becasue I sent them my OE damper to show them... this was a while ago, maybe a year or so... I think the guys name was Jim...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saleensolution &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive been getting quite a bit PM's over this product...................i had some pics of it but i dont have any handy right now but heres a link to it.

http://www.professional-produc...a.php

Anywho, I was using the SFI 90050 and it is a **** poor design, and they do not have ANY timing marks on them at all, I would not recommend this product to anyone. Save your money and buy an ATI!

I used this on my car for about 1 month and the damper came apart on the dyno and I was really lucky that it did not mess up anything internally. When i took the pulley off as you can see there 6 bolts holding it together and only 3 were still on the other three were finger tight. (Prior to installing it I checked all the bolts and they WERE all good and tight.)

Now when I called Professional Products and I explained the problem, they said that they have a lifetime warranty and changed the design on them and the problem is fixed. Just send us your old one and we will replace it. I asked them if they could supply me one that had some timing marks on it? they replied with "hondas do not have timing marks on the dampers". i responded with "how bout i send you back your SFI damper and a factory honda pulley and then you tell if they have any marks on them?"

Couple of weeks went by and they sent me the same style damper that i had before with once again no timing marks. I did not reinstall

So as for me with Professional Products</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with you too. I've been running one for the past 1.5~2 years, and I was constantly having to check and tighten those 6 allen bolts. Even with Locktite, the bolts kept backing out. My friend had the same "dampner" and had the same problems. We both ended up with blown motors, but we can't pinpoint the damage to the dampner, however his main bearings were toast.

On our new motors, we will both be using Fluidampr's.

 

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Keep in mind this usually only happens with a twin disc clutch.

 

my question is, how did it get an SFI rating if it sucks so bad? i don't disagree with you at all, my question is just me wondering how easy it is to get SFI approval.

 

The problems I have had with them had nothing to do with it getting SFI or not. Just that it did not dampen the harmonics created by the clutch.

 

ATI

 

Agreed! Laskeyracing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ATI </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

 

I PURCHASED THE "PRO PRODUCTS DAMPER" AS WELL AND AS SOON AS I WENT HOME TO INSTALL IT I NOTICED IT HAD NO TIMING MARKS AS WELL,I CONTACTED SOMEONE AT PRO PRODUCTS AND HE TOLD ME THE SAME THING "HONDAS HAVE NO TIMING MARKS" I TOLD HIM I CAN SEND HIM SINGLE CAM PULLEYS AS WELL AS B SERIES PULLEYS WITH MARKS HE THEN TOLD ME HE WOULD DO"FURTHER RESEARCH" AND TO RETURN IT TO WHERE I BOUGHT IT FROM....... I NEVER USED IT BUT FOR THEM TO SAY "HONDA DOESNT HAVE TIMING MARKS"?? TO PRO PRODUCTS.............

 

maybe the h series but im pretty sure the b and d series do

 

i have purchased one for my b series and i think a few things need to be cleared up. the 90050 for the b series does infact come with timing marks. now i would like to know what engines these where on a what kind of hp numbers where u running. i too feel a little uneasy about the 6 allan key bolts but i think i will be ok with keeping an eye on them and possibly using permanent lock tight. i'm only running around 350whp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the 90050 for the b series does infact come with timing marks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have one sitting in front of me right now with no timing marks. Bought it middle of last year.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Top Ramen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have one sitting in front of me right now with no timing marks. Bought it middle of last year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shitty. i just picked one up and it has timing marks and a tdc mark. wierd. whats the date say on the back of ur pulley?? anyone else want to say their experience or anything else????

 

expletive those dampers, I had one on mine and i torqued the pulley bolt and then one the dyno the bolt backed it way out, also did the damper. It found it way to the end and throw the motor off balance and snap the snout off the crank and destroyed the whole motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Just that it did not dampen the harmonics created by the clutch. </TD></TR></TABLE>


can you explain more on this ??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny O A20 KIller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expletive those dampers, I had one on mine and i torqued the pulley bolt and then one the dyno the bolt backed it way out, also did the damper. It found it way to the end and throw the motor off balance and snap the snout off the crank and destroyed the whole motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so what is ur setup? can we get more info on it so we can maybe see at what application and possible hp numbers these break at? also what model? single drive full race? the SFI approved?

 

I just order one about a month ago and mine has no timing marks as well.after reading these post I think i will remove it.got way to much $ in the motor to have it come apart.

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