what is your opinion on them for drag racing? right now i have a stock front and rear sway bar on my hatch. along with pic performance drag coilovers, full race traction bar, etc etc..

is it better to take the sway bars off or just leave them. is there any difference?

 

I dont run them.. front or rear. Take that for what its worth, probably not much at all..lol

 

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Actually it is worth a lot

reading between the lines you properly do not wanna commit to an answer knowing how some people are on honda-tech!!!

Simply because sway bars are worthless in my opinion other then for dead weight if you set your suspension up correctly for your application then there is no need for them!

Simply put it is nothing more then dead weight -period-

 

I dont run them.

 

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Actually it is worth a lot

reading between the lines you properly do not wanna commit to an answer knowing how some people are on honda-tech!!!

Simply because sway bars are worthless in my opinion other then for dead weight if you set your suspension up correctly for your application then there is no need for them!

Simply put it is nothing more then dead weight -period-


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so they are not hurting anything to do with traction or drag racing besides weight ? my suspension is pretty stiff.

 

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so they are not hurting anything to do with traction or drag racing besides weight ? my suspension is pretty stiff.</TD></TR></TABLE>


well depending on your setup they can cause understeer or oversteer depending on what you want!

and also it has been said they can cause wheel hop from both wheels been tied together if you know what i mean also dead weigh should always be a serious issue with anyone who is serious about racing!

 

How when a car is not generating any lateral corner force at is a Anti roll bar (anti sway bar) going to cuase under steer or over steer? that makes no sense at all.

If an anti roll bar is properly setup and not binding it should not induce wheel hop into the suspension.

Probably the one negative side effect it does have is when the anti roll bar is connected, it does couple both sides of the suspension togther. on a drag car with little suspension travel this is probably not going to be a problem.

If you'd like to find out for yourself head out to your local track; make a pass with the sway bar hooked up, then make another and simply disconnect the end link from the control arm and see what makes the car work better. Remember when testing please try to make all of the variables as consistent and controlled as possiblle so maybe do 2 passes each way and take the average

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well depending on your setup they can cause understeer or oversteer depending on what you want!

and also it has been said they can cause wheel hop from both wheels been tied together if you know what i mean also dead weigh should always be a serious issue with anyone who is serious about racing! </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ekasey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How when a car is not generating any lateral corner force at is a Anti roll bar (anti sway bar) going to cuase under steer or over steer? that makes no sense at all.

If an anti roll bar is properly setup and not binding it should not induce wheel hop into the suspension.

Probably the one negative side effect it does have is when the anti roll bar is connected, it does couple both sides of the suspension togther. on a drag car with little suspension travel this is probably not going to be a problem.

If you'd like to find out for yourself head out to your local track; make a pass with the sway bar hooked up, then make another and simply disconnect the end link from the control arm and see what makes the car work better. Remember when testing please try to make all of the variables as consistent and controlled as possiblle so maybe do 2 passes each way and take the average

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HERE WE GO!

ok let me explain something here the under and over steer that was a general statement about what a sway bar can DO!

and about the wheel hop part!

" also it has been said they can cause wheel hop from both wheels been tied together "


hope that clears any confusion

 

sway bar .......

 

lol

 

sway bar???? u dont make turns on a drag strip. actually u do at the end of the track but u aint going fast. thier for street use & road course.
top fuel dont use them & they go 300mph. we aint going that fast

i asked the same a while back after i took mine off just to see if other peepz do the same.

the front bar is heavy as hell i was supprized/

 

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dear god!

i am talking about when he is on the damn street driving around town!

not on the bloody 1320!

 

he asked about drag. of course u need it for the street, hell u need bigger for the street

 

sorry its a street/strip car but mostly strip. im just going to take them both off my suspension is stiff enough.

 

i dont run my rear one simply because it gets in the way of the 3" piping. I dont notice much of a difference though on the street. i'd say ditch it especially if its mostly strip.

 

An anti roll bar when designed and implemeted properly does not make your suspension any stiffer in pitch and heave moments like you are concerned with the only time it's truely effective is roll moments or when there are significant differences in side to side suspension travel

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hell i can push my car into the garage & the little 1 1/2 inch bump makes my car come off the ground in the rear. if u got real hard suspention then sway bars wont do much anyways

 

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i know. i said i have a stiff suspension so the roll bars probably arent doing **** on the street anyways.

my 93 dx weighs 2205 lbs.. heavier than stock

 

haha ok suure you tire comes off the ground in the rear more then likely from a lack of droop travel or the other reason would be from an anti roll bar.

and real "hard" suspension doesn't matter ARB"s are designed to add additional spring rates under roll hard suspension soft suspension it doesnt matter they still add additional spring rate to the loaded side of the car


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Dead Weight...those usually come off about the same time as the bumper supports.

 

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haha yea my front and rear bumper supports are already gone.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street dream gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont run my rear one simply because it gets in the way of the 3" piping. I dont notice much of a difference though on the street. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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Hey Art, maybe that would have prevented the endo you did in Vegas

 

mustang guys remove them to get weight transfer to the rear. when the motor torques the front end usually tries to lift one side first and the swaybar fights that. so we should leave them in so it doesn't shift to the rear.
now obviously fwd car dose't torque that way but in case one tire grows more than another it will try to keep it planted. yes I know a LSD should prevent that. also might help if the car starts to swerve up top. lastly its weight over the front.

 

Sway bars or not for drag cars?