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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Car: 1997 Honda Civic DX
Engine: B18b with the following mods done by me:
- CP pistons
- Eagle Rods
- ACL Main Bearings
- OEM Rod Bearings
- ARP Main Studs
- Exedy Flywheel and Clutch
- OEM Head, Gaskets, ETC....
- GSR Transmission

I drove it earlier today and it was fine. No problems. I take it out for the night and driving normal at 35mph 4th gear low RPM's around 3.5-4k and about 25% open throttle. I hear a "clickity clank" for a second and the car just dies. Can't get it to turn over after pulling over. No hole in the block, no oil leaking, no water leaking, no funny odors, oil level is where it's supposed to be. What can be the problem? I will pull the head tomorrow to check but just wanted to get a rough idea as to what may have went wrong. Help!
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Sorta sounds like a broken timing belt. Easy to check.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Nah, the timing belt is still there as there's no upper cover. Does this sound like a dropped valve? Even then the motor should at least turn right? That or a siezed motor?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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yikes......
Just take it apart dude, hopefully its nothing too bad.
I would pull the oil pan too
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Yea only way to tell is by pulling stuff. Were you still running the stock ecu or did you ever get it tuned? Remember how i was telling you things could go wrong with the stock ecu and stock compression, well you might just have found out what that is. But tearing it down is the only way.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Everything stock except the parts mentioned. No smoking of any sort, no CEL. Eh well, You live and you learn I guess. I'll post pics of anything I can find.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Good luck, hopefully its nothing serious.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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I had a 94 integra with a b18b a couple of months ago and the tip (dont ask me how it happened) of the spark plug actually broke off and fell down in and put a hole in my piston which locked up the whole motor....pull your plugs and check them too...
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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plus no smoke...no nothing....just chattered and died....took me awhile to figure it out....good luck man
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Even if it is, I've learned a great things about engine builds. I can recall all of you giving me advice about my build etc. So thanks to those who helped me. And thank god for that trusty honda manual.

Anywho, I don't think I'll try to repair it but instead I'll try to get a GSR longblock. How much do those run?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Just pulled the plugs. Number 3 broke and fell in. What causes these things to break? by the looks of it the piston didn't actually hit the plug.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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What brand of plugs? I'd like to know so I can avoid that brand.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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BOSCH!!!!! expletive BOSCH!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tridim &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What brand of plugs? I'd like to know so I can avoid that brand.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It can happen to any brand of spark plugs.

Take a picture of said spark plug and we could tell you what happened.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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it looks like there's a little oil leaking from the head gasket on the exhaust manifold side. What's that mean?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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BOSCH plugs are bad in Hondas. Get NGK or DENSO. I get people that buy BOSCH plugs for their Hondas all the time and they almost always come back complaining. I don't know what it is but they never seem to run right in Hondas.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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My friend had his gsr and made a similar noise and was only doing about 40 or so.

and it did end up that he dropped a valve

good luck with it
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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I had the same problem with OBX plug wires. For some reason, the plugs weren't reaching efficiently.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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bosch is no good...denso or ngk's should be just fine
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Clean off the oil and let it happen again - Im willing to bet its just coming from the valve cover
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Avoid Autolite's too!

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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damn that sucks. Post pics of the plug. Make sure it didn't damage your motor too.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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i have seen this happen many times with bosch plugs. thats why i dont use them
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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i can't get a clear shot of the plug with my camera. but the white part in the center basically broke off and the piston may have shot it back to the plug and messed up the outter thread portion.

I don't see any clue of the piston hitting the plug.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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I had that happen once in a zc. I dropped a head of a valve.... but I did it at like 7600 so it dod some damage, I couldnt even get the plug out.
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