Coptech Supercharger Question
yes they can be more reliable and there is continuous boost instead of the lag you see in turbos. turbos however typically will give you more power, and they can be reliable as well, just depends on who tunes it etc. i dont know anything about the s/c kits for these cars as i just got mine. im sure they ahve one out though and its probably close to 4 gs at the minimum.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboWill »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to install one on my 07 si sedan. I think it would be more reliable then the turbo route?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then you would have to change your name to supercharged will
Depends on what you mean reliable. A turbo set up can last as long as you want it too as long as you take the proper steps to make sure your engine can handle the boost. Same goes for a S/C. Make sure you just keep proper maintence and you should be fine. There are only a few options out as of now so just do a little research from the people who actually own any of these kits.
Then you would have to change your name to supercharged will
Depends on what you mean reliable. A turbo set up can last as long as you want it too as long as you take the proper steps to make sure your engine can handle the boost. Same goes for a S/C. Make sure you just keep proper maintence and you should be fine. There are only a few options out as of now so just do a little research from the people who actually own any of these kits.
What is your question? I assume you want to know if other agree with your thought process. From my limited knowledge on this topic (I have been researching as well) there is no clear cut answer. There are too many variables that can be different from car to car. Originally I was planning on going the S/C route, now I am leaning to the Turbo. From what I understand the Turbo does not cause too much unnecessary stress on the motor or other components when the car is being driven with some restraint, which can still lead to a long motor life.
In the end either route is sure to bring you SPEED!!!
In the end either route is sure to bring you SPEED!!!
Well I see everyone is pro turbo because in the long run you can make more power with a turbo. Im really only looking for a simple bolt-on install. I have always had turbo cars and loved them. I really dont want to change any internals on the engine. Im really not 100% on what route to take.
Presuming the parts are of good quality and the tune is spot on both will be equally as reliable, it just boils down to what kind of maximum power your looking to make and what kind of driveability your looking for.
I would recommend a SC kit if you plan on making a 250-300HP quick daily driver, The torque is instant and its so much more fun to drive in city traffic than a larger turbo setup, but if you want a ***** to the wall, 500+HP drag car, then turbo may be what your looking for. If all else fails do a search, this has been discussed a thousand times over.
I would recommend a SC kit if you plan on making a 250-300HP quick daily driver, The torque is instant and its so much more fun to drive in city traffic than a larger turbo setup, but if you want a ***** to the wall, 500+HP drag car, then turbo may be what your looking for. If all else fails do a search, this has been discussed a thousand times over.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2022173
Here's some helpful info, make sure you study up on boost. Make sure you get info from people who HAVE boost experience. Too much BS out there being posted by people who know absolutely NOTHING on boost.
Here's some helpful info, make sure you study up on boost. Make sure you get info from people who HAVE boost experience. Too much BS out there being posted by people who know absolutely NOTHING on boost.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by COMplex. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If one more person says that the s/c is continuous boost on these cars, I'm going to put a 1" pulley on mine and see what happens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess according to that misconception there is boost at idle.
I guess according to that misconception there is boost at idle.
There are pro's and con's on both systems. Like everyone has said, it really depends on how you drive the car.
I have the supercharger and I love it. Torque is much more linear. You can start feeling the boost at about 3,500 rpm. The superchargers for these cars have an internal bypass value, so at idle there is no boost hitting the cylinders. Acceleration very smooth and uniform through-out the power band. The Comptech kit uses a little smaller blower (Eaton type MP45) then the Redshift kit (Eaton type MP62). The most your going to get from the comptech kit is going to be around 350hp to the wheel @ 10 to 12 psi. The Redshift kit will produce more at the same psi, because of higher volume. The biggest issue now is proper fuel tuning. Currently, none of these kits have fuel tuning for anything more than 5 to 6 psi. I am not sure, but I don't think Redshift has released their stage 3 kits yet.
My car is daily driver and this kit is perfect. Personally, I did not want to deal with the whole "spool-up" thing. I drive in traffic so want the power at a lower RPM. I wanted to have the power now for those times when you get in a tight spot in traffic.
As for Turbo kits, there are also a couple companies out making them. Greddy has one, but I have read of several people having problems with the installation. AJP also has a kit available. Turbo kits provide much more flexibility in regards to power and boost, as long as you can fuel tune your motor. Some of the kits AJP has produced are pretty impressive. I have never dealt with AJP, so I do not know about their customer service.
In either case, keep in mind that these motors are not built for high boost applications. If your planning on being a drag guy, I suggest you research the limitation of your motor before you slap some 10 to 20 psi Turbo on your car.
If you want any additional insite on thge supercharger, let me know and I can give you my experience.
I have the supercharger and I love it. Torque is much more linear. You can start feeling the boost at about 3,500 rpm. The superchargers for these cars have an internal bypass value, so at idle there is no boost hitting the cylinders. Acceleration very smooth and uniform through-out the power band. The Comptech kit uses a little smaller blower (Eaton type MP45) then the Redshift kit (Eaton type MP62). The most your going to get from the comptech kit is going to be around 350hp to the wheel @ 10 to 12 psi. The Redshift kit will produce more at the same psi, because of higher volume. The biggest issue now is proper fuel tuning. Currently, none of these kits have fuel tuning for anything more than 5 to 6 psi. I am not sure, but I don't think Redshift has released their stage 3 kits yet.
My car is daily driver and this kit is perfect. Personally, I did not want to deal with the whole "spool-up" thing. I drive in traffic so want the power at a lower RPM. I wanted to have the power now for those times when you get in a tight spot in traffic.
As for Turbo kits, there are also a couple companies out making them. Greddy has one, but I have read of several people having problems with the installation. AJP also has a kit available. Turbo kits provide much more flexibility in regards to power and boost, as long as you can fuel tune your motor. Some of the kits AJP has produced are pretty impressive. I have never dealt with AJP, so I do not know about their customer service.
In either case, keep in mind that these motors are not built for high boost applications. If your planning on being a drag guy, I suggest you research the limitation of your motor before you slap some 10 to 20 psi Turbo on your car.
If you want any additional insite on thge supercharger, let me know and I can give you my experience.
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