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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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I drive a 95 Accord LX 4dr 2.2L 5speed. Right now I have a set of Skunk 2 coil overs on it with Tokico blues. I bought the skunk2 coil overs used off here a while back. My car is low, but not in the dirt. I keep the same amount of space between the tire and fender all the way around the fender.

My impressions: On a smooth road it rides great. If I hit a dip in the highway, the *** end usually bounces hard and I can hear the junk in the trunk (not my GF) his the trunk floor. The back seems real springy. When I hit a speed bump the rear will bounce hard. Its as if there is not enough suspension travel dampening, or something. I also have a suspension techniques sway bar in the rear and I roll on 17's with 40 series tires. i expect a rough ride, but not a trampoline. i have adjusted the rears up as high as possible and that is the bare minimum to keep the gap (between the tire and fender) the same all the way around the fender. Any one experience this?

I am thinking of switching to the GC units. I don't even know if I have the right skunk2 springs under my car, they might be for a civic for all I know.

Lets keep the discussion on the skunk2 and Ground Control. I know Tien, Bilstien, etc. exist and are great, but I can't **** on hundred dollar bills either It's a budget ride, not a race car.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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I've always heard that coilovers bounce and ride badly. You sure it isn't just how they are?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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My advice dont buy the sleeve type coilovers you get some fully adjustable coilover you can adjust dampning rideheight and spring rates..check out ksport coilovers..yes they are alittle bouncy due to the spring rates but everyone deals with it you will coner better and your spring rate will not change when in a coner unlike the sleeve types
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Ground Controls + Koni Yellows = ftw in my opinion
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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ground control hands down skunk2 are weak

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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how much would gc and koni yellows be
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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if its just a budget ride and not for performance. I would get a spring+shock.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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i've got ground controls w/ kyb adjustables on the stiffest settings.

it's stupid stiff lol...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Jonzey94 - What causes the spring rate to change when using sleeve type coil overs?

The car is not so much a budget ride, but my daily driver. I think true coil overs are overkill for my needs, but I want something more tunable than just springs and shocks. I'm still trying to save for a turbo kit
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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GC + Koni Yellows.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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i have ground controls too bouncy...ima go with tien lowering springs
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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carlosd68 - How low is your car?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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ebay coilovers on some blown oem shocks = ftw!
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jabontke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">carlosd68 - How low is your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe like a 2 in drop... its on koni reds
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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i think suspension travel is a large part of the problem. When you go lower, the suspension has less room to travel down and back to its original position. This short distance and stiff springs cause the down and back reaction to be fast and reactive (good for handling) but bad for repeated dips or large ones whee the suspension is required to travel longer than its intended ride height.

What I am wondering is... there has to be a setup that doesn't shorten the whole spring, but retains the original spring length, only the spring compresses further, thus lowering the car. Not so much a soft spring, but one that has "stages" if you will. Towards the bottom of the spring, the coils are tightly wound to increase the spring rate, but towards the top the coils are spaced further apart giving the ability for more suspension travel when needed. A pipe dream I guess.

My problem: in a good, misjudged bump, the stiff rear suspension springs bounce the rear of the car up. High enough that the short skunk2 springs come off their cradle. Its not comfortable and it makes a *** cracking ride if you happen to be sitting in the back when that happens. Down the highway, if the road has a sharp rise and fall, my car does the same.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jabontke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not so much a soft spring, but one that has "stages" if you will. Towards the bottom of the spring, the coils are tightly wound to increase the spring rate, but towards the top the coils are spaced further apart giving the ability for more suspension travel when needed. A pipe dream I guess.
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What you've just described there is a progressive rate spring. I haven't been looking into suspension for a while now so I don't know whats available out there for our cars, but thats what you're looking for.

Randomly came across this little write-up on springs from H&R's website, thought you might find it interesting: http://www.hrsprings.com/site/...html
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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yea on the freeway when theres a lil rise and fall my car feels like ****,,,,,i fucked up my header pretty bad...and its like a 500 dollar header......ima just go with springs
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