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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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i hate power steering on my car its gay... what do i do 2 remove it?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Why do you hate power steering?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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because its too soft...i dont care for mine either...

searching would have told you, however, to PM user Padawan - he sells excellent ps removal kits
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because its too soft...i dont care for mine either...

searching would have told you, however, to PM user Padawan - he sells excellent ps removal kits</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2, I want to get rid of mine. but I'm just going to pull it all out with the swap.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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yea so damn u need a kit??? i thought it was just remove the belt, pump and thats it am i wrong? damn i dont wanna go thru a mission to remove my ps but i'll pm him anyways
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondamanXxX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you hate power steering?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hate it because i dont know but i feel a lot more stable with a car that has no ps and another thing is that ps is 4 bitchessssss!!!!! i just happened to have an ex coupe tho so i have to put up with it and i want it gone but i wanna keep my ac
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Midori Green &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea so damn u need a kit??? i thought it was just remove the belt, pump and thats it am i wrong? damn i dont wanna go thru a mission to remove my ps but i'll pm him anyways
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Yes, you cant just remove the pump, manuel racks and P/S racks are a lil diff. If you remove the P/S without changing the rack, it will eventually rust out and break.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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damn so f$%* that too much work just to remove something that technically isnt a problem even tho i hate it
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Midori Green &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn so f$%* that too much work just to remove something that technically isnt a problem even tho i hate it
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Yea, unfortunatly
If you want just the feel, best you can do is remove the belt for the P/S.
But as soon as you remove the pump or open up the system to the outside, it will cause it to rust up and break down over time.

Best thing you can do is just leave it for now and wait to get a manuel rack.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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oh so yea thats what i'll do just remove the belt then it will help a little at least and will it brake anything... cuz all i think of when i say breaking or removing belts is timing belt and it sounds bad lol so its safe to just remove the ps belt right?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Midori Green &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh so yea thats what i'll do just remove the belt then it will help a little at least and will it brake anything... cuz all i think of when i say breaking or removing belts is timing belt and it sounds bad lol so its safe to just remove the ps belt right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it wont break anything, the belt is alone, it just runs off the crank pulley. My only concern is what the fluid will do after months of just sitting in the system, not being pumped around. Could that possibly cause corrosion,or someting worse? Maybe someone can confirim this.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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cant i just drain the fluid???
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Midori Green &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cant i just drain the fluid???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Technically, yes, you could. But you would have to keep the system itself in, and sealed from the outside until you get your hands on a manuel rack.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Actually..."technically" no, you cant. The rack needs lubrication...
Do not drain it....
Removing the belt actually makes it harder to turn (significantly) than just a regular manual rack, since youre fighting a pressurized system with fluid, as well as the weight of the car.

(manuel is a name -&gt; manual)
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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ok so i guess i will just remove the belt then thanks
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Read this as an alternative:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=184202
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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wow that is too much work like i said if its gonna be a problem i'll just leave it on.. so what do u think about just removing the belt?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Really?? Congrats on being one of the laziest people Ive ever heard of

Like I said, removing the belt alone makes it significantly harder to turn than just a manual rack would be. If you want to do it, be my guest, but I dont really recommend it.
Not that its hard to remove and put back on....just try that for a bit. You'll see what I mean PDQ
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really?? Congrats on being one of the laziest people Ive ever heard of

Like I said, removing the belt alone makes it significantly harder to turn than just a manual rack would be. If you want to do it, be my guest, but I dont really recommend it.
Not that its hard to remove and put back on....just try that for a bit. You'll see what I mean PDQ</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol yea i work 7 days a week 2 jobs and then school and no money to show 4 it lol but thats a personal problem so i wouldnt say im lazy but my schedule kind of has that effect of making me want to take the easy way out of things
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Don't remove the belt. Do it right or leave it alone.

You don't need a "kit". Why are you going to pay some guy to go order some parts from a catalog, put them in a box, and charge you a profit?

Just go to the junkyard and get a clutch resevoir. Drill some small holes in the lid to vent it. Go buy some hose and some vacuum T's. Then you'll need a fitting to screw into the rack to accept the hose. If you do a search you can find the post where padawan admitted the size of the fitting.

You actually gravity drain the rack and then hook up your hoses. As long as you don't force the fluid out by turning the wheel with the hoses disconnected, you'll have enough fluid for lubrication.

I had this setup for about a year but finally just swapped to a manual rack. It's lighter, cleaner, and easier to turn (I have wide sticky tires and a small diameter steering wheel).
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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power steering suck
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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what are the drawbacks of just removing the belt?
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