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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Hey guys i have a 92 Hatchback with a LS motor with a GSR tranny my Q is about the short shifter when i go to 5th gear the shifter looks like it is in neutral and i can wobble it side to side like when its on neutral but it is in gear and it does this in all gears. anyone know what it is?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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It can wobble from side to side a bit when in gear. Now for your neutral question I really dont know what to say. Maybe thats just the way it is. What brand is it?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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i think u put the shifter in backwards. happend to a friend of mine...he did it himself in his eg and it looked retareded..as described above...so he fliped it around..and problem solved.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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replace the bushing...
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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check to see if the shifter is backwards, if it is correct that, and get a set of nice shifter bushings like energy suspension they are dirt cheap and do a good job of tightening your linkage back up
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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How the **** do you put it in backwards?

@ OP:
It's probably the bushings - how much movement are we talking about here? Don't say it moves like neutral b/c I doubt it moves all the way from the 5th gear fork to the 1st gear fork.

Just put it in 5th , move it all the way to the right, then move it all the way to the left (without pulling it down any) - and estimate the distance - it's probably the bushings...iono anything about that "shifter in backwards" thing - I've done stupid **** before, but never that.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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hmm you kno how there is a bend in the shifter..he put the bend facing the wrong way thats how the **** u put it in backwards
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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like stated above, the shifter is no doubt backwards and the looseness is from the bushings. They are very inexpensive to get replacements for and take very little time to change out.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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If you can move it in gear it's the shift linkage bitch pin.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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How in the world can it engage in some gears being backwards!
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can move it in gear it's the shift linkage bitch pin.

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Like he said.. bitch pin OR the shift linkage itself could be worn. I notice that the moving parts of my linkage are all worn. I could rattle them. The moving parts on the linkage don't seem to be replacable or adjustable since they dont use bolts. Anyone know of a way I could tighten it? Or do I have to replace my linkage? And is your shifter as wiggly as mine is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYRqtJhGJo

Mine isn't AS loose anymore after replacing bushings and tightening stuff but it still moves side to side quite a bit.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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aww I just searched and found that some aftermarket linkages DO have removalble bolts But anyway.. where the bolts are, that area could have become loose/worn which is MY case of wiggly-shifteritis

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hi-Psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How in the world can it engage in some gears being backwards!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever seen a shift linkage? I've seen people install shifter backwards because they like it better that way.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How the **** do you put it in backwards?

@ OP:
It's probably the bushings - how much movement are we talking about here? Don't say it moves like neutral b/c I doubt it moves all the way from the 5th gear fork to the 1st gear fork.

Just put it in 5th , move it all the way to the right, then move it all the way to the left (without pulling it down any) - and estimate the distance - it's probably the bushings...iono anything about that "shifter in backwards" thing - I've done stupid **** before, but never that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I used to have this problem too and you could damn near move the shifter from 5th gear all the way to the first position while in gear. At the end of the shifter there should be some bushing where the actual shifter hooks meets the shift linkage. The problem with aftermarket shifter is that they are usually much narrower than the stock shifter. This way when you shifter it slides back and fourth before it even moves the shift linkage. Hope this helps. The best way you can check is jack the car up crawl under and look where the shifter meets the linkage. Check for any gaps.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Yeah I have, but some shiftlinkages have adjustments that wouldnt allow them backwords. And if it was installed backwords it would pop out of gears.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:51 AM
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ok 1st mine is NOT backwards 2nd it doesnt pop out of gear, tomorow i will jack the car up and see if its the bushings i will try to make either a video or pics.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NightStalker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok 1st mine is NOT backwards 2nd it doesnt pop out of gear, tomorow i will jack the car up and see if its the bushings i will try to make either a video or pics.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Does yours wiggle as much as mine did? I posted a video thingy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYRqtJhGJo
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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yes it does....
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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i say look first, ask questions when u dont know whats going on.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sageuvagony &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does yours wiggle as much as mine did? I posted a video thingy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYRqtJhGJo</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's more pressure moving the shifter over into the 5th/rev position becsuse you are fighting the reverse lockout spring.
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