BRANDS TO AVOID
CodeAlarm
Pyle
Bulldog
Karr
<U>Crimestopper</U>
Anything imported
Anything with poorly translated instructions

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What exactly is so horrible about the CS Alarm Setup? Pro's and Con's?

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Pound For Pound, It Will Serve For Above Average Protection, Right?
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2 WAY PAGING & SECURITY FEATURES:

2-Way FM/FM Paging Remote with Red and Blue Backlit LCD Screen
Large LCD Display with DOT Matrix and "Painted Screen" Graphics.
Fully Animated LCD Graphics Display Armed, Disarmed, Zone Violation and Vehicle Running after Remote Start.
Uses Standard AAA Battery.
Real Time LCD Clock.
Includes a "SideKick" Non-Paging 5-Button Remote.
Remotes Available in Carbon Fiber or Black Texture Finish.
Vibrating and Audible Alerts.
Long Range, Penetrates through Parking Garages and Shopping Malls.
433 MHz High Frequency with Extended Range on-glass Antenna.
Dynamic-Code Anti-Code Grabbing Protection.
6 Tone Siren with Higher 125dB Level.
Electronic Dual Stage / Dual Adjustment Shock Protection with Pre-Warning (Plug-in Design)
Positive or Negative Parking Light Output (Jumper Selectable)
Dedicated Vehicle Horn-Honk Output.
Remote Panic Protection.
Pre-wired Starter Disable Relay and Socket Included.
LED Diagnostics for Last Zone Triggered.
Passive or Active Arming (Programmable)
Active Re-Arming Mode (Programmable)
Door Lock Pulse Time (Programmable 1 or 3 Sec.)
Auto Lock / Unlock with Ignition or RPM (Programmable)
Power Down Monitoring with NovRam Memory Circuit, keeps system status when battery is disconnected.
CONVENIENCE & VALUE ADDED FEATURES:

DP II Technology: 2-Way Data Port allows for Direct Plug-In Data Modules.

2 Vehicle Operation with Car 1 / Car 2 Push Button Switch on Side of Informer™ Pager Remote.
Remote Keyless Entry (Controls Power Door Locks)
Positive and Negative Door Lock Outputs.
Separate Driver's Priority Door Unlock Output.
(4) Remote Auxiliary Outputs: 2 Fixed, 2 Programmable (Timed 2-255 seconds, momentary or Latched on/off.
Silent Arm and Disarm through the Remote.
Valet Service Mode and Valet Park Mode with Trunk Protection.
Dome Light Illumination Output.
Double Unlock Pulse (Programmable)
Parking Light Illumination on Disarm (Programmable)
30 Programmable Options.
Qualifies for Insurance Discount.
Transferable Limited Lifetime Warranty.


REMOTE START HIGHLIGHTS:

Turbo Timer Mode: Allows Engine to Continue Running from 1 to 5 minutes After Key Removal (Requires Additional Switch Not Included in Kit)
"Ultra-Smart" Tachless Mode with Custom 80~100% Voltage Range Adjustment.
Programmable "Wake-up" Ignition Pulse on Unlock for Vehicles with "Slam Locks".
"Timed" Crank Mode (Pre-set Starter Cranking Time in 4 Increments form 0.5~1.5 Seconds.
Glow Plug Input or Programmable Delay Time for Diesel Engines.
(5) On-board Relays for Easy Installation.
Selectable Engine Speed Sensing: "Smart" Tachless or Tach (RPM) Learning.
3rd Start Output.
Tach Finder Mode.
Programmable Engine Run Time: 12, 24, 36 or 48 Minutes.
Factory (OEM) Alarm Disarm Output.
Negative Ignition Output for Additional Relays or Anti-Theft Bypass Modules.
Hood-Open Safety Circuit. The unit Will Not Remote Start if Hood is Open or Ajar.

 

to quote what i always hear.

its not the alarm that makes the difference but the instaltion

i think any alarm will work great as long as the thief can't disarm it quickly,
check out the sticky on this thread about diy alarm intalation to see what im talking about.

 

I have replaced 3 CrimeStopper Gargoyle alarms in the last 2 weeks, all where installed about 1-1/2 years ago, if it is any indication, the shop I work in now did about 200 of them 1 to 2 years ago, 3 in the last 2 weeks and 7 in the last 2 month, it looks like I will be replacing most of them.
Although the installs were not stealth all connections were soldered and at the right places, all of them I have replaced have had diff. problems. 94

 

it's a temp. alarm until i find a Clifford Alarm I like. what is the reason for people having their CS alarms re-done typically?

 

If you want a "temp" alarm I've got a Fox FAI-8200 (ebay) two way alarm kit with window roll up module I could sell you for like 100 bucks shipped, I never installed it or plan to use it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oem_certified_accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's a temp. alarm until i find a Clifford Alarm I like. what is the reason for people having their CS alarms re-done typically?

</TD></TR></TABLE> As I mentioned, all the ones I have replaced so far have had diff. problems, from constantly triggering, to remotes will no longer program to the brain, to LED or siren output no longer working.

But if it is a temp alarm, then go ahead, all the ones I have replaced are 1 - 1 1/2 years old. 94

 

we sell crimestoppers at my work and the only time we have problems like FCm is talking about is if the alarm is well over a decade old.
if you are going to get a crimestopper with a 2-way and remote start get the infinity FM. it is the step up from the 2016 but the remotes are far more reliable and they go through batteries less. 2016 remotes are probably the biggest problem we see with crimestopper, the battery prong breaks off inside, they wont code anymore, or they suck batteries dry in no time flat. all which require warranty replacements.
I have sold numerous brands of alarms and I would say that crimestopper falls in the middle as far as reliabilty.

 

If you read further along in that sticky thread someone asked the same question and I gave my answer.

The quality of their product might vary over time or across their lineup. Nevertheless, I have a good basis for my opinion and I'm not likely to change it.

 

revamping an old post...got a swap comin up, but would like to go ahead and install the alarm..my ? is are there any wires on the engine harness that need to be spliced into...i need the room in the garage to work pm the engine but won't park outside without a stealth install.

let me me know & thanks in advance

-oem

 

I have had the same problems as fcm in terms of the grime stopper. If your going to do a stealth install. it would be better to wait and get the clifford unit. Why pull the dash twice.

 

whats wrong with KARR alarms? i used to work for the company, and never had any problems with them, i even have one in my civic...only thing i see wrong with them is that most dealerships that sell them rip people off like no other..they pay $120 to have the alarm installed on the car and sell it for $795!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_CLtypeS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats wrong with KARR alarms? i used to work for the company, and never had any problems with them, i even have one in my civic...only thing i see wrong with them is that most dealerships that sell them rip people off like no other..they pay $120 to have the alarm installed on the car and sell it for $795!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me guess, you have a karr brand just throw in your car from the dealer shipp. no 520t, horn honk. Ouch I feel for your car.

 

What's wrong with Karr?! I have been replacing them every single week since I became a professional installer 2+ years ago! IN FACT, JESSEMAN JUST REPLACED ONE EARLIER TONIGHT.

What I love about Karr alarms is that I can scavenge the sensor plugs for use on DEI alarms, since DEI doesn't sell or provide them. And since I replace them so often, I can always count on a steady supply!

I also scavenge the inline fuse holders.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's wrong with Karr?! I have been replacing them every single week since I became a professional installer 2+ years ago! IN FACT, JESSEMAN JUST REPLACED ONE EARLIER TONIGHT.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had this thing out of the truck in under 3 minutes and I only cut the starter wire. Those dealerships install them so shitty, those t-tapping sons a bitches.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jesseman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I had this thing out of the truck in under 3 minutes and I only cut the starter wire. Those dealerships install them so shitty, those t-tapping sons a bitches.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i will agree with you on that, they t-tap the ish outta the cars they install on, it really sucks for the people that dont want the alarm...