AJP now offering 510whp @20psi
http://www.ajperformance.com/index.php
says it right on the first page.... holy crap batman.
/discuss
says it right on the first page.... holy crap batman.
/discuss
stock yea 20 not gunna happen... id be willing to bet though 10-11psi might be do able... i just emailed them to see what they think. (not that i really want to turbo) but redshift seems to think you can pull it off aswell. hmmmms
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaggotSI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock yea 20 not gunna happen... id be willing to bet though 10-11psi might be do able... i just emailed them to see what they think. (not that i really want to turbo) but redshift seems to think you can pull it off aswell. hmmmms</TD></TR></TABLE>
They've been running that at the track so far without problems, I beleive.
Traction is an issue, yeah.. But it's not like all the power is wasted. When you step on the gas in 1st gear it's not like 510 horsies are smacking the ground. I think one of the AJP guys said once you aren't seeing that power until near redline in 3rd gear, where you will most likely have minimal wheelspine. All in the driving
They've been running that at the track so far without problems, I beleive.
Traction is an issue, yeah.. But it's not like all the power is wasted. When you step on the gas in 1st gear it's not like 510 horsies are smacking the ground. I think one of the AJP guys said once you aren't seeing that power until near redline in 3rd gear, where you will most likely have minimal wheelspine. All in the driving
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by originalg00kster »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that was his viper?</TD></TR></TABLE>
not his
i think he ment 0wNed!
but that vid wasn't of a boosted K
not his
i think he ment 0wNed!
but that vid wasn't of a boosted K
510whp in a 2800 lb car and ran a 12.1? I would of hoped for much better.... :-(
Oh btw theres vids everywhere on youtube of people just testing the K-motor to the max, running 28, 32, and even 36 psi on the stock motor (36 blew it)
You will be fine running 20, but to be on the safer side, just get a 3mm headgasket to lower the compression a little bit.
Does anyone know if we already have forged internals like the f motors?
Oh btw theres vids everywhere on youtube of people just testing the K-motor to the max, running 28, 32, and even 36 psi on the stock motor (36 blew it)
You will be fine running 20, but to be on the safer side, just get a 3mm headgasket to lower the compression a little bit.
Does anyone know if we already have forged internals like the f motors?
You know, that is very impressive, but I can't figure out what these guys at AJC are trying to prove.
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.
the only vid I seen on youtube was a 13.9 @ the track with AJP 500 hp is pushing it im thinking of going with 8 1/2 psi to be safe when I get the money and find a good setup! I was waiting to see what jackson was doing with there new SC but I think that must not be working out becuase I called them and never heard back. not sure whats going on with jackson?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hellzcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know, that is very impressive, but I can't figure out what these guys at AJC are trying to prove.
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You figure if you were to at least bash on them, you would at least do it to seem where as if you were the least bit educated and got the company name right.
All Japanese Performance. - AJP
You must have some good ears to hear piston slap over the turbo
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You figure if you were to at least bash on them, you would at least do it to seem where as if you were the least bit educated and got the company name right.
All Japanese Performance. - AJP
You must have some good ears to hear piston slap over the turbo
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hellzcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know, that is very impressive, but I can't figure out what these guys at AJC are trying to prove.
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's probably why they aren't offering it to the public. I emailed them as well and they cut the boost off at 8.5. They're just showing how superior their **** is to everyone else's.
I know the cylinder sleeving can handle that type of pressure but I know the rods and pistons cannot. Sure hope they are not pushing these high WHP kits on the public, because these engines will not last long.
If you listen closely to the other video you had a link too, it really sounds like there is some piston slap going on when the turbo kicked in.
I am afraid these AJC kits are going to result in a lot blown motors for people who are blinded by horse power. I sure hope they advise their customers of the dangers these types of pressures can cause your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's probably why they aren't offering it to the public. I emailed them as well and they cut the boost off at 8.5. They're just showing how superior their **** is to everyone else's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ley »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You figure if you were to at least bash on them, you would at least do it to seem where as if you were the least bit educated and got the company name right.
All Japanese Performance. - AJP
You must have some good ears to hear piston slap over the turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
I appologize for thr name mistate.
I am not bashing AJP, they are doing some awesome work. Very impressive stuff. But, if they are trying to push these products out to the street guy, who uses the car for his daily use, these kits would be a disaster. People will throw these on their motors because they see 500WHP, and blow them up in a matter of weeks.
Personally, I feel these kits should be pushed as track only and that the company stress the importance of building up the motor first. Every Honda Tech and Honda Racing mechanic I have talked to, tells me 9psi boost it the highest you should go without Rods, Pistons, Crank and bearing. This does not even touch on clutch, CV's and every other parts if the drivetrain.
Get the strength rating of the rods and then calculate the cylinder pressure on the powers stroke with 20psi. The downward force on the rod well exceeds the rods strength. My mechanic calculated all this with me to determine the max boost I could crank up my supercharger and still be save. I will try to get them from him.
You know what size Turbo they are using?
Thanks, again, no hate here.
In the video, perhaps what I heard is the turbo, but from my ears, it does not sound good. Something sounds like it is rattling. Could be my audio system here, but that engine DID NOT sound happy. IMO
You figure if you were to at least bash on them, you would at least do it to seem where as if you were the least bit educated and got the company name right.
All Japanese Performance. - AJP
You must have some good ears to hear piston slap over the turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>
I appologize for thr name mistate.
I am not bashing AJP, they are doing some awesome work. Very impressive stuff. But, if they are trying to push these products out to the street guy, who uses the car for his daily use, these kits would be a disaster. People will throw these on their motors because they see 500WHP, and blow them up in a matter of weeks.
Personally, I feel these kits should be pushed as track only and that the company stress the importance of building up the motor first. Every Honda Tech and Honda Racing mechanic I have talked to, tells me 9psi boost it the highest you should go without Rods, Pistons, Crank and bearing. This does not even touch on clutch, CV's and every other parts if the drivetrain.
Get the strength rating of the rods and then calculate the cylinder pressure on the powers stroke with 20psi. The downward force on the rod well exceeds the rods strength. My mechanic calculated all this with me to determine the max boost I could crank up my supercharger and still be save. I will try to get them from him.
You know what size Turbo they are using?
Thanks, again, no hate here.
In the video, perhaps what I heard is the turbo, but from my ears, it does not sound good. Something sounds like it is rattling. Could be my audio system here, but that engine DID NOT sound happy. IMO
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hellzcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I appologize for thr name mistate.
I am not bashing AJP, they are doing some awesome work. Very impressive stuff. But, if they are trying to push these products out to the street guy, who uses the car for his daily use, these kits would be a disaster. People will throw these on their motors because they see 500WHP, and blow them up in a matter of weeks.
Personally, I feel these kits should be pushed as track only and that the company stress the importance of building up the motor first. Every Honda Tech and Honda Racing mechanic I have talked to, tells me 9psi boost it the highest you should go without Rods, Pistons, Crank and bearing. This does not even touch on clutch, CV's and every other parts if the drivetrain.
Get the strength rating of the rods and then calculate the cylinder pressure on the powers stroke with 20psi. The downward force on the rod well exceeds the rods strength. My mechanic calculated all this with me to determine the max boost I could crank up my supercharger and still be save. I will try to get them from him.
You know what size Turbo they are using?
Thanks, again, no hate here.
In the video, perhaps what I heard is the turbo, but from my ears, it does not sound good. Something sounds like it is rattling. Could be my audio system here, but that engine DID NOT sound happy. IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear yah man... it does sound like a big advertising gimick to get people to buy it... but seriously how many turbo inthusiast will drop there jaw and buy it without doing research... i doubt anyone will unless you have 3k to 5k to throw around like no big deal.
I appologize for thr name mistate.
I am not bashing AJP, they are doing some awesome work. Very impressive stuff. But, if they are trying to push these products out to the street guy, who uses the car for his daily use, these kits would be a disaster. People will throw these on their motors because they see 500WHP, and blow them up in a matter of weeks.
Personally, I feel these kits should be pushed as track only and that the company stress the importance of building up the motor first. Every Honda Tech and Honda Racing mechanic I have talked to, tells me 9psi boost it the highest you should go without Rods, Pistons, Crank and bearing. This does not even touch on clutch, CV's and every other parts if the drivetrain.
Get the strength rating of the rods and then calculate the cylinder pressure on the powers stroke with 20psi. The downward force on the rod well exceeds the rods strength. My mechanic calculated all this with me to determine the max boost I could crank up my supercharger and still be save. I will try to get them from him.
You know what size Turbo they are using?
Thanks, again, no hate here.
In the video, perhaps what I heard is the turbo, but from my ears, it does not sound good. Something sounds like it is rattling. Could be my audio system here, but that engine DID NOT sound happy. IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear yah man... it does sound like a big advertising gimick to get people to buy it... but seriously how many turbo inthusiast will drop there jaw and buy it without doing research... i doubt anyone will unless you have 3k to 5k to throw around like no big deal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondamanforlife »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only vid I seen on youtube was a 13.9 @ the track with AJP 500 hp is pushing it im thinking of going with 8 1/2 psi to be safe when I get the money and find a good setup! I was waiting to see what jackson was doing with there new SC but I think that must not be working out becuase I called them and never heard back. not sure whats going on with jackson?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that vid you saw was a 13.9 and the car was running 7psi of boost. they hit a 13.5 on 7psi.
that vid you saw was a 13.9 and the car was running 7psi of boost. they hit a 13.5 on 7psi.





