My car is getting to its final stages of completion. I am wanting some advise of witch to use between a spool, or a lsd diff quaife etc... im expecting to put out around 800whp or so whan final tunning is done. I have heard storries bout axle breaks and getting put into the wall with a spool, but a guy i know ran one for two seasons with dss 3.9 600hp axles and never had one problem and competion clutch twin disc... will mine is the same set up but with the 5.9 1000hp set up.

Has anyone had any experience with any of this and imput or stories would be appreciated!!!

Thanks..

 

I run the quiafe. I get a bit of torque steer, but it's manageable.
I'd recommend it.

 

running a spool is sweet esp if you have the axles to handle it....

The only thing that really sucks is Tryen to park or push it if you have the wheel turned it binds up a good bit...

a spool is cheaper and its not going to break

 

quaifes have a lifetime warranty however and are proven.

At 800hp, u really dont have to worry about drivability.

Although, like stated above, it will be tough to push or park

 

for a drag car, driving a spool on the strip is great... definitley my first choice...

but for me, I went over to a quaife, because I decided to put my car back on the street...

(selling my spool cheap)

 

i built this car mostly for the track and it will only use c16. but with all this money i have into it i have to drive it on the street some just to get everything out of it and of course to get into the domestics ***'s.

i appreite all the info guys anyone else??

 

If your really going to drive it on the street, you need a Quaife.

 

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The only thing that really sucks is Tryen to park or push it if you have the wheel turned it binds up a good bit...

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My friend (1 2 NV) just broke his spool. They aren't invincible.

 

I am running a spool this year. I really dont mind it even on the street. Its only bad with no air in the tires trying to turn or park at low speed.

 

Quaife

 

how much power are you puttin to the ground and what kind of axles???

Great info please keep it coming , Im thinkin of keepin my spool so far, have not heard any bad stories yet, thank god!! but just want to put as much power to the ground as possible.

 

my goal is 9's

 

I running a spool and as said above really not that bad on the street,trying to park or pull in the staging lanes sucks!!

 

what brand of spool are you and everyone with high hp running?

 

I got a pro drive

 

&lt;-- richmond spool

 

i apprecite everyone imput but with what i have read and heard so far im going to stick with my prodrive spool, but if anyone wants to put there 2 cents in or story are welcome!!!

 

I would recommend you run a LSD. if you are on a poorly prepped track and one side of the groove has more traction that the other, or if you run over some oil with one tire and it starts to spin the car is going to take off in the gripping tires direction. Plus spools are just a pain in the *** when you are trying to move a car around the shop. the quafie will handle just about anything you can throw at it. Yes they break at times but so do spools. I wouldnt run a spool in ant front wheel drive car.


Thats just my .02

 

i have yet to see a difference at the track with one. its just a pain in the *** imo.

 

pro drive.660whp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N2O &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would recommend you run a LSD. if you are on a poorly prepped track and one side of the groove has more traction that the other, or if you run over some oil with one tire and it starts to spin the car is going to take off in the gripping tires direction. Plus spools are just a pain in the *** when you are trying to move a car around the shop. the quafie will handle just about anything you can throw at it. Yes they break at times but so do spools. I wouldnt run a spool in ant front wheel drive car.


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the Honda-tech dragracing forum has been the one source of reliable information for FWD drag cars since my brother and I started messing with a VW a few years back. I've seen all sorts of cars and drivers put up some really solid information here. With the response above, I think it's clear that the author doesn't know what he's talking about. Please don't ruin the integrity of these fine people by posting such nonsense.

A spool is a fully machined unit and the NHRA accepted version of a welded diff. The advantage of a spool is that both tires turn the exact same all the time (unlike the quote above that suggests that a spool can be a problem when one wheel breaks loose. silly, huh?). So if only one tire gets grip it will still pull the car where you point it.

Sure it's a hastle to move around the shop but it is sure a dandy at the track.

When we transport the car for road trips, we bolt up a pair of stock spare tires. The car tuns pretty well in loading and unloading the car as well as setting up in the pits. I don't like to leave my dragcar sitting around on the racetires anyway. If we leave them on the car we lift the front and set it on jackstands. Moving around pits can be a drag but just keep an eye on tire pressures to make sure you haven't lost a bead. Alignment is important as well.

Right now we're sitting at 11.1 at 130 on M&H dot's and a 1.8 60'. We have about 250 passes on stock axles and stock transmission with 350-ish wheel hp.

Spools work great for the dedicated track car but I'd never suggest using one on the street. Certainly a LSD would be better for street applications. Listen to guys who race, not guys who read magazines only.

 

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the Honda-tech dragracing forum has been the one source of reliable information for FWD drag cars since my brother and I started messing with a VW a few years back. I've seen all sorts of cars and drivers put up some really solid information here. With the response above, I think it's clear that the author doesn't know what he's talking about. Please don't ruin the integrity of these fine people by posting such nonsense.

A spool is a fully machined unit and the NHRA accepted version of a welded diff. The advantage of a spool is that both tires turn the exact same all the time (unlike the quote above that suggests that a spool can be a problem when one wheel breaks loose. silly, huh?). So if only one tire gets grip it will still pull the car where you point it.

Sure it's a hastle to move around the shop but it is sure a dandy at the track.

When we transport the car for road trips, we bolt up a pair of stock spare tires. The car tuns pretty well in loading and unloading the car as well as setting up in the pits. I don't like to leave my dragcar sitting around on the racetires anyway. If we leave them on the car we lift the front and set it on jackstands. Moving around pits can be a drag but just keep an eye on tire pressures to make sure you haven't lost a bead. Alignment is important as well.

Right now we're sitting at 11.1 at 130 on M&H dot's and a 1.8 60'. We have about 250 passes on stock axles and stock transmission with 350-ish wheel hp.

Spools work great for the dedicated track car but I'd never suggest using one on the street. Certainly a LSD would be better for street applications. Listen to guys who race, not guys who read magazines only.

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I usally would not comment on someones post but knowing who N20 is, you post makes me laugh.

I actually run a welded Diff in my FWD Drag car-I am a cheap DSM'er what can I say, and a quaife in my FWD street car, if I had the extra 1K to blow I would deafintly run the quaife at the track as well.

 

i dont know for sure that my spool is broken, it for sure has some wear in it. its on its way back to the manufacturer.
i personally would run a spool in a street driven car while its main use is at the track. once you have some speed its not that hard to turn. however if you do push your car around a shop while turning you do not want a spool.
i dont know how the quaifes react if you break a axle but at least with a spool you can still get back to the pits. i broke an axle while using a ITR LSD and it strands you like your one legged. spools my choice without a doubt.

 

the main question i would like 2 know is thier a diff in the 60ft with a spool 2 a quaif.

i run a quaif in my car & have cut 1.65 60ft all day with good tires. been thinking about getting a spool also 1 for weight & other thinking both tires going togetter off the line car might launch better.

aslo what n20 said also has some truth 2 it. i know 1st hand how happens at a poor preped track. cars spill all the time & they dont see it so it doesnt het cleaned up. driving half way down the track your car jump over 1ft or more but still goes straight. now with a spool it will jump alot harder i would think. & if u get a blow out a spool can be dangerouse as well i would think aslo
correct me if im wrong, just a assumption.

aslo have a friend with a quick16 car & he took the spool out & went with quaif. due to turning around at the end of the track really sucked. he didint see no diff 60ft as well but he didnt do alot of testing also

 

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the Honda-tech dragracing forum has been the one source of reliable information for FWD drag cars since my brother and I started messing with a VW a few years back. I've seen all sorts of cars and drivers put up some really solid information here. With the response above, I think it's clear that the author doesn't know what he's talking about. Please don't ruin the integrity of these fine people by posting such nonsense.

A spool is a fully machined unit and the NHRA accepted version of a welded diff. The advantage of a spool is that both tires turn the exact same all the time (unlike the quote above that suggests that a spool can be a problem when one wheel breaks loose. silly, huh?). So if only one tire gets grip it will still pull the car where you point it.

Sure it's a hastle to move around the shop but it is sure a dandy at the track.

When we transport the car for road trips, we bolt up a pair of stock spare tires. The car tuns pretty well in loading and unloading the car as well as setting up in the pits. I don't like to leave my dragcar sitting around on the racetires anyway. If we leave them on the car we lift the front and set it on jackstands. Moving around pits can be a drag but just keep an eye on tire pressures to make sure you haven't lost a bead. Alignment is important as well.

Right now we're sitting at 11.1 at 130 on M&H dot's and a 1.8 60'. We have about 250 passes on stock axles and stock transmission with 350-ish wheel hp.

Spools work great for the dedicated track car but I'd never suggest using one on the street. Certainly a LSD would be better for street applications. Listen to guys who race, not guys who read magazines only.

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Why would you turn that post into a personal attack? Both post have useful info, but you have just flat out acted like your opinion is the only one that maters....
11.1 @130 is great , 250 passes on stock tranny and axles is cool too, you could do the same with a lsd so whats your point.
Why turn your answer into a soap box sermon just be nice no need to be a dick.

I race I have used both, and I know for a fact that a lsd is more safe, than spool. Hand's down , do you need to know my racing resume to value my opinion...
Or do you to tell us something else that makes your opinion matter more than some one elses's?