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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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To preface this, I have a 94 GSR, but the info is good for anybody.

I've been using HAMP oil filters that my best man in my wedding bought me. In preparation for a trip, I wanted to change my oil. I recently moved and my HAMP oil filters are boxed up somewhere, so I bought a Fram Sure Grip.

Cruising at 70 MPH, my oil presure with the HAMP filter was around 80 lbs (+/- 2 lbs).
Cruising at 70 MPH, my oil pressure with the FRAM filter is around 70 lbs (+/- 2 lbs).

Needless to say, I'm gonna be tearing through boxes to find my last couple of HAMP filters.


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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Thats because Fram Filters are made of plastic and paper on the inside....
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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good lookin out man
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Fram filters = junk

If you really ike your car, do some research on oil filters and you will see that the fram filters are the worst on the market.

Pure One
Mobil 1
K&N

have the best test data that I have seen.

I run a Canton filter on my cars but you must have an oil pressure gauge with it so you know when to change it. It does not have a bypass valve like all of the other filters on the market, so when you see a 5psi pressure drop= time to replace it.

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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haha thats good info thanks
its funny how many thought to be little things are overlooked in the car world.
mugen makes a filter. id say 20hp at least
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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I run either Mobil 1 (cheap and decent) or a Napa Gold. My local AMSOIL dealer who is also a very good engine builder, builds blown pulling trucks well over the 1000 hp mark (alcohol but anyways) he was notified by AMSOIL that they did a test on every oil filter available from auto parts stores, advance, auto zone, napa, etc. and there best flow, filtration dah dah dah dah goes to NAPA GOLD for best performance. That is what AMSOIL claims and I trust them...just throwin it out there.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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can you run an OEM honda oil filter and test the pressures for us?
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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^yeah, also very curious, i run k&n, but curious bout oem...
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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I would only use a honda filter. At work we had a CR-V come in with a check engine light and a bunch of random nasty sounds. After removing the head we found a collection of orange plastic in the oil passage. And we took the FRAM filter off and there was close to nothing in it......
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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I've had fram filters leave the rubber seal on my block


I also had a rubber seal on a fram chip and drain oil like a champ. I lost so much oil pressure that the car wouldnt start once in a while.

I then pulled the motor thinking it was shot to discover a bad oil filter...

Fram
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Not that I really care too much, but I have used fram with no problem. I do change my oil when ever it looks dirty, maybe 2000mile or so. I’m using denso now just because I bought them for some reason and I don’t notice a difference.
I would think that since the oil pressure sender is located between the oil pump and the filter and you make the point that you lost oil pressure, I would think that would mean that the oil filter is flowing (cleaning) the oil better. The oil needs to get past the filter and to the bearings, so I would think that’s a good thing. But I really don’t know or care.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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never mind, i just read this and totally get it now.

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abnaasefmb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">never mind, i just read this and totally get it now.

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??? hmmm....ok
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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^^ LOL!!! i read it too, haha, too bad i cant read good what ever that is... haha haha
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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i used k&n only now on my rex
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/f...shtml

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you run an OEM honda oil filter and test the pressures for us? </TD></TR></TABLE>

times 1 meeeeelion!

I work for Honda, so naturally i use the good ol' blue ones all the time.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I work for Honda, so naturally i use the good ol' blue ones all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>


good ol' 15400-PLM-A02? &lt;----- great memory from my honda days.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abnaasefmb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would think that since the oil pressure sender is located between the oil pump and the filter and you make the point that you lost oil pressure, I would think that would mean that the oil filter is flowing (cleaning) the oil better. The oil needs to get past the filter and to the bearings, so I would think that’s a good thing. But I really don’t know or care.
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well, I DO care, oil is the lifeblood of my engine, not too sure about yours.

I just want to point out a bit of a flaw in your idea. The oil being pumped around is in a pressureized state right? so that would mean that it would be virtually the same at any point in that system would it not? Its not water going thru coffee grounds and out the bottom of a filter that way, its like filtering your gardenhose with one of yours socks.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well, I DO care, oil is the lifeblood of my engine, not too sure about yours.

I just want to point out a bit of a flaw in your idea. The oil being pumped around is in a pressureized state right? so that would mean that it would be virtually the same at any point in that system would it not? Its not water going thru coffee grounds and out the bottom of a filter that way, its like filtering your gardenhose with one of yours socks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can assure you that my oil is fine; I just changed it like two days ago.
If you want to point out my flaws you should make a cogent argument. Your oil is not at the same pressure throughout the entire system that why it’s important to pay close attention to clearances when building an engine. Where ever there is a restriction pressure will rise and the pressure will be lower where less of a restriction exists.
So my thinking still remains the same; with the oil pressure sensor in front of the filter and the only thing that changed in the system is the filter and suddenly the pressure is higher the oil is being restricted more at the oil filter, whether this is a good or bad thing is an entirely new discussion.
hose off ay
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gator88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I run either Mobil 1 (cheap and decent) or a Napa Gold. My local AMSOIL dealer who is also a very good engine builder, builds blown pulling trucks well over the 1000 hp mark (alcohol but anyways) he was notified by AMSOIL that they did a test on every oil filter available from auto parts stores, advance, auto zone, napa, etc. and there best flow, filtration dah dah dah dah goes to NAPA GOLD for best performance. That is what AMSOIL claims and I trust them...just throwin it out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NAPA gold = WIX= great filter.

And if you buy them by the case here &gt; http://www.fleetfilter.com/Sto...at=51 they're only $4.13 ea.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Furyof4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

NAPA gold = WIX= great filter.

And if you buy them by the case here &gt; http://www.fleetfilter.com/Sto...at=51 they're only $4.13 ea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sweet, im buying a case, that is great prices!!
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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OEM or wix
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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OEM&gt;***

in every situation
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR640 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM&gt;***

in every situation</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, OEM Honda filters are manufactured by Fram. They're essentially the same thing as the Fram filters you can buy from any autoparts store.
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