I have a 1992 acura integra ls. I ripped out the ls cause my cousin wanted it for his 91 hatch. I really don't know what motor to put in it. I was thinking gsr, but i was to a itr type r would be better. I really wanna know not what will be easyier, but what will give me more in the end. I was alos told that a k20 with some work would sweep hose, ture or not? So any help would be nice, Thanks


Modified by 89crxsiVT at 11:12 PM 7/1/2007

 

Any help? I a little new to the integra, and don't know much about it

 

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An ITR motor is pretty expensive and a gsr motor is kinda pricey too. I would go with a newer b18b and turbo it. That will probably give you the best results.

 

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In hindsight, i wish i had done that in my DA. However, it depends on what your goals are. What kind of power do you want?

If you just want a little more power, get an OBD1 B18C. Wiring wouldnt be as bad as putting an ITR motor in (obd2) and you could easily build the GSR to make more power than an ITR motor with the change left over that you didnt spend.

HMO sells B18C's for 1800+shipping. add in a P72 ECU plus other miscellaneous **** and you could walk away for about 3 grand, or less. Getting a B18B and turboing it (assuming its done right and you have it tuned) is most likely going to cost more than that. But you would be making way, way more power. So, its worth it. But, like i said, if you arent looking for 230+whp, it wouldnt be necessary. However, if you piece together your own kit you might get away with abt the same money as a GSR motor. Its your call. Just read about all your possibilies and make an informed decision.

 

I was at this decision myself three months ago. I took out the LS and just bought a jdm b18c from hmotorsonline.com. Install was easy, just very time consuming just like any other motor swap. We used the stock wiring harness that was for my DA. We just had to wire in the vtec, oil pressure and knock.

The JDM b18c is a very good choice IMO. My car feels alot stronger than it did with an LS with 403's and bolt ons.

Another motor you should consider would be a high compression b20. I raced a DA with a b20 with LS cams and bolt on's, and he stuck right there with me although he started falling back when we get further and further.

 

I am looking to make an autocross car that will, puts my friends little vw golf git turbo to shame. I am looking for more tq than topend. Ya i am thinking Gsr just cause it would be easier than the type r and a little bit cheaper. I really wanna know what i am going to have to do?

 

Im in the process of swapping a B18C from a JDM Integra SiR into my 1990 DA9. I will keep you posted but right now some stupid **** is holding us up.

 

ok thyanks for the look out. Just keep me posted

 

You guys need to talk about what transmission you went with and why.

 

92-93 GSR. Short gearing and, although rare, can be found for a good price.

 

I was thinking of going with the stock b18b ys1, but i have no clue if its any good. Is it?
I keep the trans from when i pulled the motor, but all i know it the trans code and that it has an LSD.

 

im in the process also in putting in a obd2 gsr in my DA so far so good i should start it tomorrow just waiting for walbro fuel pump let you know how it goes.

 

ok
But does anyone know anything about ys1 trans, good bad or ok?

 

are you asking because yours is messing up? what kinda tranny do you have right now? because if you are going to get a swap then it should come with a good trans if you get it from a reputable place.

 

Well you can't use a hydro tranny in a DA unless you buy an expensive conversion kit. So it may be better to get a cable tranny for your B18B/B18C1/B18C5.

 

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If you are referring to B18B ys1's, they do not have an LSD. The YS1 from a 92-93 GSR possibly might but no LS tranny came stock with an LSD. There is a few fifferent YS1's. I tried for about 10 minutes to find on here where i posted a link on a another thread with all Honda tranny specs but i cant find it. JUst google it

 

ok we'll it burns both tires. It doesnt do any one wheel stuff. Ya i am planin on using the th3 stock ys1 trans was the one that came on the b18b1, nothing is wrong with it, it just needs a new clutch, and stuff like that.


Modified by 89crxsiVT at 10:29 AM 7/4/2007

 

Ok but it wont mate well with a VTEC motor. It will be hard to stay in the powerband with longer gearing. I am assuming however, that you are going with a VTEC engine. Even if you werent, sell your LS tranny and get a tranny that was once attached to a VTEC engine from the factory. Well worth it.

 

ya im going with a v-tec engine. Ya i know it would be hard at first, but its like an rx7, you just gotta learn it. The thing is I like the gearing of the trans i got, i really dont care too much for the short gearing, plus i really need a trans with a long second gear. What would be so hard to mate that trans to a v-tec motor.

 

Not difficult as in installation. All b series transmissions bolt right up without complications to any b series motor (except cable to hydro and vice versa, which can be a bitch with conversion kits and such). What i mean is they wont be good for each other. The longer gearing in an LS tranny is meant for torque and is meant to complement a low redline. A GSR motor does not excell with low end torque. And it does not have a low redline. You will be shifting at 8200 and landing at like 5300-5500 ish. Ideally you want to land at or above 5.8K. Longer gears mean slower acceleration in just about every case and especially with a motor that doesnt get going til about 5800 RPM. You will be limiting yourself with an LS tranny.

 

ok that makes since. Any suggestion to what tranny i should use. I will be auto crossing the car and don't wanna have to shift up and down a bunch of times. I just found a gsr motor and all the parts i need. My friend just got rear ended and is selling me everything but trans(using it for his gsr powered 91 hatch). So i guess its time to talk transmissions.

 

it all really comes down to, "how deep is your pocket?"

 

we'll it a depends on what its worth to me. Cause i can get one thats expensive and does one job, or get one cheaper that does pretty much the same thing i will go for the cheaper one. Just because i am a college student and i need to have my truck sold. So that makes my pocket not too deep, but palnning is what im doing so that if i have to spend a bunch on a trans i have it.

 

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Transmission guide:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm

If you look hard enough you wont have to spend more than 500 for a good tranny

Skip anything hydro. Hydro + DA chassis = pain in the ***. Stick with cable types.

Recommendations:
The YS1 that came from the 92-93 GSRs. NOT to be confused with the longer geared YS1s found in 90-93 RS/LS/GS DA9s.
The S1/J1 tranny that came with the B16 powered XSi's. My friend runs that on his 180whp LS/VTEC CRX and it is amazing, esp. with the LSD. Perfect gearing.
Make sure you find one with an LSD, esp. since you will be doing autox. Otherwise you will be shelling out more money for an LSD.

Search around on this site and you will find many of these for reasonable prices.

 

I hard to do a hard thing and sell that gsr motor to pay for some stuff. I am going to have an find another job. I did find something out though the trans i have in my grauge came out of an 92-93 xsi, the kid that had the car before blew the trans and was going to put a b16 in it, but only put trans in. I found the receipt for it in the glove bock, he got it from some place up in Canada. Thats why it has an LSD in it. So are you saying i should keep it or boot it?