Ive seen some of you all post pictures of manifolds that are so 'busy' that it always makes me wonder how you get in the collector area to weld everything up. Mainly where the primaries connect to the collector tubes. Ive thought about it and I guess you could just move your last weld from the normal primary to collector seam to some place else on that primary but in the end Ive found youre just trading one problem area for another.

Some people say oh you have to lose the gas lens and use a narrow cup on that weld. Im sorry I still dont see that being nearly enough to get the torch in these places.

Anyone have any insight? This cant be that difficult and Im sure Im overthinking this

thanks

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...d=1,1

this is what you need to get. A flex head torch with multiple heads. Comes with straights, shorts,thin, small..... When welding turbo headers for motorcycles I am limited to such small places its crazy.

 

that is awsome, i wish i bought a kit like that when i purchased my new torch..

thanks for the link, Sebastian

 

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this is what you need to get. A flex head torch with multiple heads. Comes with straights, shorts,thin, small..... When welding turbo headers for motorcycles I am limited to such small places its crazy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This kit is great! I personally have the arc-zone kit on one of my welders. I have numerous heads setup for differant processes. I never change out the collet/tungsten conbination out of the head unless I am welding something peculiar... Add the presets from the Dynasty 300 and it takes me 10 seconds to change from welding thick wall sch 40 to thinwall Al and then to 4130. I would recomend a torch with interchangeable heads to

edit: oh and for welding the collectors try sticking out the tungsten farther out; just keep it steady...

 

damn looks like its time to spend more money lol

 

Those little torches look cool, but Ive been using a really large lens/cup and just extending the tungsten and it seems to work great.

 

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Yeah, I second this one. I've been using a jumbo gas lense, and I can get the tungsten out pretty far and still get coverage. Using the backpurge setup here and there to shield an area if you really wanna stick it out far also helps damn good.

 

if your still using a large cup, your not welding stuff nearly tight enough lol

 

I bought this from 91 STiGuy on here, but haven't used it yet.

 

that looks like a slick little unit

 

i assume its bendable? does the little clear "cup" bend as well?

 

I don't think it's bendable, haven't tried though. Pretty sure it's not. It's really small though, smaller than it looks in the pic. If there's a space that you can't get to with this, then it's a space that shouldn't be welded. lol

 

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The point of using the large cup is so you can stick the tungsten out three inches or so to get to the tight spots and still get gas coverage. Here is some pic's of the arc-zone kit for any of you guys thinking about buying it.





Pic's were borrowed from my friend rcautoworks


Modified by NaPiEr at 8:04 PM 7/4/2007

 

Sticking the tungsten out 3" and getting coverage? You're crazy....

 

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Well maybe not 3" but far enough for a collector . I wanna try using one of them straight pencil toches.

 

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turn the cfm up !

 

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The point of using the large cup is so you can stick the tungsten out three inches or so to get to the tight spots and still get gas coverage. Here is some pic's of the arc-zone kit for any of you guys thinking about buying it.





Pic's were borrowed from my friend rcautoworks


Modified by NaPiEr at 8:04 PM 7/4/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

Great kit , so many interchangeable stuff it gets hard to figure out what goes where and how that goes.

 

welding the collector its self inst too bad...hell most times welding the runners to the collector is more of a challange.

sticking the tungsten out always seems to make it weld like butthole haha

 

I use an 8 cup... and pull my tungsten out...it usually protrudes no more than 3/4" from the end of the cup.

 

Bump for more heads

 

what about those really narrow long cups.......... so ur cup can fit down in the collector without having to pull the tungston out very far and arcing the side lof the collector. u know what im taking about???

 

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3/4 of the time, at least with me, is the angle that the head needs to be in, and if its to wide ( long ) its not going to fit.

 

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i was thinking of getting on very similar could you let me know how you like it maybe some things you like and don't like

 

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Those are called "Long Lava Gas Lens Nozzle".

It is number 21 in the below pic.

 

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Those are called "Long Lava Gas Lens Nozzle".

It is number 21 in the below pic.



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that and 23.............. where can u get them?