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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Noob on boost here but i have a question. Just curious which one is better and less of a hassel and cheaper in price? Looks like the internal is winning in my decision because obviously it comes with the wg and no need for a dump tube. Just curious how people did their intercooler piping for these internal wg turbos because the hot side i believe is right next to where the manifold is suppose to go. Also i think i would need to get a downpipe flange for the internal wastegate turbos?
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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you would need a downpipe flange regardless...
how else would you connect the downpipe?

Also, intercooler piping comes out of the smaller hole on the turbo, usually around 2" and then around the drivers side to the intercooler, then around the passenger side and up to the throttle body... Intercooler piping is going to stay the same no matter what you go with.. whether it be internal or external.

Internal wastegates are almost always cheaper because you dont have to buy the wastegate separately. An external wastegate and dumptube combo can cost like 300 dollars or more.

You shouldnt have a manifold yetbecause if you do, then you wouldnt really be able ot choose between external or internal unless you plan to do some sort of modification to the manifold first.


I think you need to do a lot of researching and planning... I think theres a lot for you to learn about a turbo setup
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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I have always preferred internal wg setups over external, its alot cleaner setup, less **** under the hood, and no extra exhaust plumbing. The only drawback is that some people experience creep over 18 or 20 psi, but atp now sells an upgraded housing that eliminates the creep and integrates a 3" vband connection. I will be using this on my setup with the new turbo. http://www.atpturbo.com/root/r...5.htm
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Just get an external and be done.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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fugly lol
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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fugly, but the open dumptube sounds sweet.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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i think they sound like crap, but i do like when it is routed to the fender and you can see that bitch shoot flames... thats almost worth it in itself!
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Yeah untill it catchs your fender wall on fire lol. Then the whole car will be up in flames
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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that sir is a risk i would be prepared to take!
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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I've had both internal and external with open dump. Open dump makes your car sound like a piece of ****. I'm looking forward to the day I can find a welder to reroute it back into the exhaust.
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