http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19339955/

 

******* owned, all I gotta say.

 

1. How is this Type-R related?
2. Don't buy stolen/shady parts.
3. Don't street race.

/thread

 

I would never let a cop take my car expletive that

 

 

Woah, I hate theft and street racing, but this does not sit well with me.

First of all, the kid in the story is right: it makes far more sense to auction off the seized cars than to destroy them. Secondly, the story contradicts itself, or at least doesn't give a clear explanation of what constitutes a "crushable" offense. At one point the reporter claims that police must prove that the car has stolen parts on it (and if a missing VIN sticker on a fender is enough, that's scary), yet the officer quoted says they're crushing cars used in street racing (again, scary since that isn't the easiest thing to prove).

This looks to me like a ill-conceived attempt at PR, an effort to persuade people that "the law is really cracking down on theft and street racing," when what they really need to do is actually make thieves serve a reasonable sentence when caught.

 

great article.....as far as im concerned, if u buy stolen parts u are a thief aas well.....people know when they are buying hot parts

Just like when the cops found my stolen gsr motor in a civic....of course buddy didnt "have a receipt for the motor" because IT WAS STOLEN!!!

and street racing is plain stupid....

 

how can i even begin to respect any journalist until they can spell VTEC correctly

he is right to a certain extent. stuff should be auctioned off, that they purchased legally, and the money go to charity. it is a waste

 

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WTF you going to do about it talker? STFU...

 

If its stolen and the owner knew about it... good ... if they didn't then i sorta feel bad for them. But Ignorance isn't an excuse.

 

some of those cars were pretty nice. wonder if any of them are on HT

 

They won't crush a car thats financied. If you own it its gone.

 

looks like the integra has its A emblem flipped

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s...FAULT

 

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wow! i dont know if i could watch my car get crushed after all the blood,sweat and money i put in it. that could really mess with your head. if anyone involved reads this unknown stolen parts and street racing aside, sorry that happened and keep your head up.

 

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You honestly believe that?

 

All this looks like is that they have a vendetta against imports and Honda drivers especially. Like nobody ever races Camaros or Mustangs.

I think the government is over-stepping its boundaries once again with this.

 

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I think the government is over-stepping its boundaries once again with this.</TD></TR></TABLE>


probably cos most of the cops are 'tasche wearing all-American tobacco chewers that love their V8's

 

..........and the stereotype we recieve as HONDA owners just keeps getting worse

To be honest i could give a **** less about this, in fact i hope it does some good.

 

This really pisses me off.

Stolen parts? You get what you deserve. Enough said.

However, the rest of the cases are retarded. They've made a similar statement here in Ontario with respect to street racing. The Attourney General stated at Queens Park yesterday, that vehicles even "suspected of street racing, or that have parts that are synonomous with street racing" will be crushed without a citation even issued, or proof that a street race occured. They stated that people who dump thousands of dollars into their cars to go faster are just wasting their money, because the cars will just be crushed.

1st off, they don't have the authority to do that, nor will they receive it.

2nd, what about people who finance their cars? Are the police willing to take care of the leins that will occur on vehicles that are crushed under "suspicion" and not proof?

3rd, this is just like the Pit-Bull ban the Ontario government issued a while back. You've got idiot owners who train and breed these dogs to fight, and when they mess up once, they kill the dog. Does this make sence? No. It's the owners fault. Here we have idiot street racers who get caught, and they set a small, or no fine, and crush the car. Is it the cars fault? Nope. And we all know that the owner is going to get another car and do it all over again. I think they are putting their efforts into the wrong side of things. The owner is the problem, not the car.

Overall, this is just a scare tactic set out from our governments to address what is a true issue. Street racing should be harshly dealt with, but this resolution is just uneducated, and dumb. It's not going to do anything but **** alot of hard working individuals like us, off.

If they want to crush cars that are under suspicion of having parts that are associated with racing, than go ahead and tell all the performance shops that they're out of business, ban the importation of these parts, and ammend the highway traffic act.

Until than, they can't do ****.

 

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I think the government is over-stepping its boundaries once again with this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure about SoCal, but here, I used to live off a main road that was used for drag racing, 95%+ were imports, a solid 50% or more honda products. Statistically speaking, if that was done here, I wouldn't be surprised at only seeing honda products, especially considering how much more rampant theft is with hondas.

 

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You honestly believe that? </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not them and im not the one to judge them but its not impossible that they were unaware that some of there parts were stolen from the usa or japan. i live in a hick town and theft isnt a issue yet, so if i buy a part or motor cheap it being stolen is not my first thought its more like whats broke on it. although i know things are different elsewhere i think buying a part from someone reputable or a business is different from buying a part from some crack head you know stole it. honestly does everyone here know 100% that none of there parts are stolen? but for the thieves actually stealing the cars and selling the parts they should have their hands cut off

 

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Except that you allow stolen goods to return to someone else for a low price, not sure that really makes sense.

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Secondly, the story contradicts itself, or at least doesn't give a clear explanation of what constitutes a "crushable" offense. At one point the reporter claims that police must prove that the car has stolen parts on it (and if a missing VIN sticker on a fender is enough, that's scary), yet the officer quoted says they're crushing cars used in street racing (again, scary since that isn't the easiest thing to prove). </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree that the story was written horribly. What I wanted to know was, what part had a missing VIN? Was it a tranny with it obviously drilled out (in which case I'd feel safe saying it's stolen), or what? It can't be a fender missing a VIN sticker, replacement fenders don't have VIN stickers and I'm sure the county/city/whatever isn't stupid enough to allow all the lawsuits that would result from that ..

Street racing isn't really so hard to prove, they are almost always videotaped racing as evidence, so a recording of the driver/owner getting into the car and then proceeding to race another vehicle would be plenty of evidence IMO.

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How can we make them serve a reasonable sentence? Kick out some murderers, robbers, maybe some rapists to make room for some street racers? Fact is, their offense is far less than others, so they will never serve long sentences until we solve the jail overcrowding problem. Sure, I'd love for them to serve years in prison for stealing/street racing, but that's not going to happen at this point. Then again, I think our justice system is horribly screwed and it's far too concerned with inmates rights.

 

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im not them and im not the one to judge them but its not impossible that they were unaware that some of there parts were stolen from the usa or japan. i live in a hick town and theft isnt a issue yet, so if i buy a part or motor cheap it being stolen is not my first thought its more like whats broke on it. although i know things are different elsewhere i think buying a part from someone reputable or a business is different from buying a part from some crack head you know stole it. honestly does everyone here know 100% that none of there parts are stolen? but for the thieves actually stealing the cars and selling the parts they should have their hands cut off </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do, I know the owner personally of every part I've bought (ok, I did buy some lugnuts from someone random before, but I guess he stole the box and all too ) and knew them when they bought the parts new, and for new parts, well, they were still wrapped up and brand new.. soo...

Sadly, you have to be careful who you do buy parts from, even if it's a shop. There have been more than a few cases of shops/people selling parts that were later proven to be stolen, and if you get pulled over with a stolen part, you'll lose the part at best.

 

It's a wake up call for those youngsters that continue to 'street race' on late Friday/Saturday nights.

Utterly senseless.....taking it to the track will prove the real winner.