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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Can they work with a mugen p28 chip, apexi and 440cc injectors?

specs:
b18a1 block sleeved and bored to 84mm
b18a1 stock crank
b16 head ported & polished
probe I beam rods
13.2:1 wiseco pistons
jun3 cams
ferrea outer springs & stock inner springs
ferrea retainers
rev flat stainless steel valves
stock b16 flywheel
4 puc clutchnet disc
act pressure plate
walbro 255 fuel pump
venom cam gears
unortodox crank pulley
balanced
etc.

with a skunk2 im, holley 68mm tb, 345cc injectors and custom 3" cai, made 226.9whp & 150.4wtq and 12.3@ 106.8mph

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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you are going to want to tune them with something preferebly that uses tps input or alpha-n.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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I wanted to tune it my self with the apexi, but everybody tell me that I will need hondata or crome.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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hondata, crome, or any other tuning software that allows you to use tps input only or a map/tps combination will make the engine run much better than a simple vafc.

or are you talking about a powerFC?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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no, I just have a first gen vafc
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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really? im surprised you made that much hp with a chip and vafc tune.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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It works really nice I just use 3 gal. of 93 octane fuel for each gal. of vp c-12 to stop knocking at low rpms.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It works really nice I just use 3 gal. of 93 octane fuel for each gal. of vp c-12 to stop knocking at low rpms.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or you could use an actual tuning program and be perfectly fine with regular 93. hell you might even be able to squeeze out a few more hp by tuning the fuel and ignition maps seperately.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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I already sold the complete intake system, and finished port matching the new itb's.
I will install them tomorrow and will try to tune them a little bit so I can get to the dyno on monday. I have a friend that knows how to work with crome, hope he could go with me...
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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how much whp&wtq should I expect?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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where can I find an example of a nice timing curve for an engine like mine, so I could have something to start with?
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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anybody can help?
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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you're better off in the all motor forum for questions like this
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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here are some pics of the itb's




Modified by b18master at 3:59 AM 6/19/2007
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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if you havent already, you might want to think about tapping the runners and running a vac line to a single source for a better signal. there's a couple guys in the all motor forum with twm's that have done this.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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sure?
my itb's have a vaccum rail that conects to all 4 ports.
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