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F23 turbo - any need for EMS? - 6psi...

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Default F23 turbo - any need for EMS? - 6psi...

I was talking with my tech about installing a turbo on my 6th gen - F23. He said that if I only run about 6psi, I wouldn't need new injectors or an EMS. I would only need a new fuel pump. So is that true - I wouldn't need them?
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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um no. unless he was talking about using an FMU & missing link & inline fuel pump don't ever go back to that guy.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Depends on what the mechanic meant. He has the right idea of getting a larger fuel pump to increase the fuel pressure (get more fuel in the engine), but that needs to work in conjunction with a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. Most complete turbo kits come with a RRFPR.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would only need a new fuel pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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rising rate regulators= fmu (fake management unit )=

you would need more than a fuel pump, I personaly would suggest proper engine management to anyone boosting a honda. any amount of boost can damage your setup with less than quality management and tuning.

yes it may survive for a little bit with an fmu/ stock injectors/ fuel pump but its hardly worth it soon after you get running you have to rebuild because of damage from detonation, washed out rings, etc.

personally its just my 2 cents but I would say hell no, and spend a little bit of money now on better management. there is alot of options out there and the price is well worth it. I ran an afc hack/ big injectors for a while cause I thought it would be ok at first on low boost and then switched to hondata... OMG, why I even bothered with the afc is beyond me. it is honestly total night and day difference, there is absolutely no comparison between real management and half *** methods.

do it right the first time imo, it will make more power, be more reliable, alot more driveable, and solid foundation for future growth/ upgrades.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Default Re: F23 turbo - any need for EMS? - 6psi... (twkdCD595)

my motto is: if you wanna go faster, stab the gas

really shouldnt cheap out on FI
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I didn't think that was right. I was going to go Greddy E-Manage Ultimate and have it dyno tuned and all. The tech was talking about the FMU and such - using stock injectors but a larger fuel pump.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't think that was right. I was going to go Greddy E-Manage Ultimate and have it dyno tuned and all. The tech was talking about the FMU and such - using stock injectors but a larger fuel pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah dude that **** sounds straight up ghetto rigged

like
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 361 accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Holy ****, LOL.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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that is by far the sweetest crx ive ever seen
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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word, thats the new top mount thats gonna hit HT by storm. top mount bandwagon riders hop on!

FMU = dinosaur technology.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't think that was right. I was going to go Greddy E-Manage Ultimate and have it dyno tuned and all. The tech was talking about the FMU and such - using stock injectors but a larger fuel pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm confused - you want to use stock injectors + emanage? Or are you talking about two different scenarios?

You can run an FMU/pump/missing link up to about 7 psi. I ran that way for ~1 year and didn't have any problems, but be sure you're using a high pressur inLINE fuel pump, not a walbro.
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