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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Ive been searching around a lot tonight and found out the Honda's got a new MTF that is supposed to be comparable to the GM Synchromesh. Im trying to combat the infamous notchiness/3rd gear issue in my 05 rsx-s and was wondering if anybody has tried to get the transmission fluid changed under warranty? Ive also found out that from the factory a lot of our transmissions are overfilled and that may cause some of the issues that we are having. Open to any other thoughts, experiences, or opinions. Thanks

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Been on the new stuff for about a month now. 3rd gear grind is gone, 3rd gear stiffness is reduced but still there. 2nd gear crunch in still there. I'll maybe try syncromesh next, but the new mtf is a lot better than the old mtf.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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meh.. 20w-50 castrol gtx oil ftmfw
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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im trying to get it done under warranty. I already took my car in once because of the transmission issues and they said they "couldnt replicate the problem" so i just gave up on it. Why cant they just be cool and hook me up. Im sure they know that there is problems with the transmissions. ****'s always gotta play dumb n ****. My car is about to turn 40k and im trying to prevent any problems i may have in the future now before my warranty runs out. Of course theres always the option of paying 1500 bucks to extend my warranty to 99k.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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1986...did you get it done at the dealership and if so was it under warranty or did you have to pay? If you did it yourself how many quarts did you use and did you flush and refill or just drain and refill. Sorry for all the questions lol.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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2 1/2 quarts is what is supposed to be used. i used the crap out of my warrenty till i hit my 50k mark. I didn't flush it i just drained and refilled but i actually went to the honda dealership and bought some MTF. Dunno if it is the new shiot or old.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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i used it and then switched back to royal purple.. still not good enough
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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im using it
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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I changed mine out for Amsoil. It got rid of the 2nd gear grind a little, but its still there when I shift inoto 2nd at higher rpms. I also had the syncros changed. The problem came right back.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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I done it on my own, forked out 60 dollars + fluid. But i have a friend who worked at the acura dealership, he said i could have gotten a free tranny fluid change cause they deal with lots of people complaining about that and they usually put gm syncromesh to hopefully "cure" the problems. Fluid change is cheaper for the dealership than replacing the whole tranny. My next fluid change i am gonna go try to get a free one at the dealership
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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is it me or does everyone seem to have a "frieind" that works at an acura or honda dealership? No offense to any of you
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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mine just got up and left his job.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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I heard that RP is the worst for the k-series tranny...but don't know about it because I haven't tried it yet...But lots of peeps are saying that the new honda mtf is as good as gm synchro & amsoil synchro...I'm using amsoil right now and it did get rid of my 2nd gear grind, took away the notchy 1st gear while 3rd, 4th and 5th gear went in really well like a hot knife thru butter... keep in mind i have a 03 civic si...(5 gears only)...but once I change out the tranny fluid again, I'll try honda's...
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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im using the new stufff....its not much better than before..
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Then try Amsoil's...
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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i do mine once or twice a year. it's as easy as an oil change. just use a pump to get the fluid in. i've used the honda mtf and i'm using pennz/gm synchromesh now. i really can't tell the difference. 2nd gear crunch happens every once in awhile but i think new fluid makes the most difference. only costs 20 bux to do it yourself.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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why would you use a pump? just take the speedo sensor off and filler up thru there. 2 1/2 quarts.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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i drive an ep3.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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When I did my 5-lug conversion I replaced my MTF in my '02 Si.

Before I had an occasional 2nd gear grind like most EP owners; once I switched that all went away and now all my gears are as smooth as butter. I know its not an RSX; but thats my experience with the new stuff.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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the new MTF was made at 1st for the 2006 accord v6 six speed because they were having a problem with their transmissions. we never sold it because mainly not many people buy the v6 accord six speed. i put 2 qts of the new mtf with 1qt of lucas oil and it works great.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Honda's new formula works wonders! I love the stuff! Way better than GM Synthetic Synchromesh!
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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ok,
But WHICH NEW MTF?

Nobody else knew about this problem at theHonda/Acura dealership, mechanics, service specialists, but i asked around..

Paul, The Parts Manager helped me, and told me this:
NEW MTF formula used in '06-'07s... Retroactive- works in All years EXCEPT 08's

NEWWEST MTF FORMULA! used only in '08s. NOT for use in older vehicles!
and in fact, its not even available to consumers here yet...

hope this clears it up for some of you...
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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We have it at our dealership
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nighthawkep3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have it at our dealership</TD></TR></TABLE>

...i need a new dealership!
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