welding delsol roof
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welding delsol roof
lo guys,
anyone know how much you would estimate it would cost to get the roof of a delsol welded onto the car? (and before you smart ***** chime in my roof is steel like the body as its from a SiR Transtop
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been staring at it today and im just wondering what would be required to fill the gaps between the roof seals and the chassis
anyone know how much you would estimate it would cost to get the roof of a delsol welded onto the car? (and before you smart ***** chime in my roof is steel like the body as its from a SiR Transtop
)been staring at it today and im just wondering what would be required to fill the gaps between the roof seals and the chassis
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Re: welding delsol roof (redsolturbo)
Well it could be done but the car is designed to flex at that point since its a targa car.If its welded and filled it will comeback.I dont care who does it.....
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Re: welding delsol roof (Bigblockhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bigblockhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it could be done but the car is designed to flex at that point since its a targa car.If its welded and filled it will comeback.I dont care who does it.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
The car is designed to flex at that point? Targa cars have added structure so as NOT to flex due to the lack of a fixed roof. I would certainly think making the roof a permanent fixture would add greatly to the stiffness of a Del Sol.
The car is designed to flex at that point? Targa cars have added structure so as NOT to flex due to the lack of a fixed roof. I would certainly think making the roof a permanent fixture would add greatly to the stiffness of a Del Sol.
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Re: welding delsol roof (RC000E)
Yes it has extra bracing and sturture to help it be stiffer but this is now a huge flex point in the car and the HONDA SPENT LOTS OF $$$$$$$ TO INSURE THAT IT COULD FLEX WITHOUT BREAK OTHER PARTS OF THE CAR....Now if you make the roof solid ie,weld,bodywork and paint.....It will come back.Maybe not completely but u will begin to see were the car had the roof worked.......But hey this is just my .02 cents
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Re: welding delsol roof (RC000E)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The car is designed to flex at that point? Targa cars have added structure so as NOT to flex due to the lack of a fixed roof. I would certainly think making the roof a permanent fixture would add greatly to the stiffness of a Del Sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh and have u driven a del slow without the roof in the car is way loose feeling compared to when the top is in.....This is called flex
The car is designed to flex at that point? Targa cars have added structure so as NOT to flex due to the lack of a fixed roof. I would certainly think making the roof a permanent fixture would add greatly to the stiffness of a Del Sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh and have u driven a del slow without the roof in the car is way loose feeling compared to when the top is in.....This is called flex
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Re: welding delsol roof (Bigblockhatch)
Ah yeah, exactly, the roof tying at just four points adds a degree of stiffness. Yet adding a roof permanently will suddenly cause vehicle structural failures elsewhere? Your talking straight out of your ***.
The DelSol's were known as being flawed in design due to the fact that a "convertible" type car was based around a solid roof chassis....the civic. Structure was added for crash safety and added weight to the car, but they do flex, and as you pointed out they flex less with the roof in place. Further making the roof a permanent solid structure will essentially return it to being a solid roof chassis. There would certainly be no structural failures elsewhere.
So you say that "HONDA SPENT LOTS OF $$$$$$$ TO INSURE THAT IT [Del Sol] COULD FLEX WITHOUT BREAK OTHER PARTS OF THE CAR". I'd be interested in the documentation or location of this information.
Modified by RC000E at 9:50 AM 6/10/2007
The DelSol's were known as being flawed in design due to the fact that a "convertible" type car was based around a solid roof chassis....the civic. Structure was added for crash safety and added weight to the car, but they do flex, and as you pointed out they flex less with the roof in place. Further making the roof a permanent solid structure will essentially return it to being a solid roof chassis. There would certainly be no structural failures elsewhere.
So you say that "HONDA SPENT LOTS OF $$$$$$$ TO INSURE THAT IT [Del Sol] COULD FLEX WITHOUT BREAK OTHER PARTS OF THE CAR". I'd be interested in the documentation or location of this information.
Modified by RC000E at 9:50 AM 6/10/2007
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Re: welding delsol roof (RC000E)
No what he is saying is that when I put my Rollcage in my EF my paint will chip everywhere because the car will be to rigid now. 
Go soak your head! If you want the added rigidty weld it in!
Go soak your head! If you want the added rigidty weld it in!
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Honda didn't spend a lot of money on this model to keep it from flexing. I can't remember how many times I saw Del Slo come in with roof rattles, wind noise and water leaks. To be honest that model is by far the worst of the EG chassis. If you weld the roof I would think the structural intergity will be a lot stronger but you will also need to provide underside bracing to prevent the roof from twisting and buckling. Simply welding the panel will not give you much of an increase in the structure of the vehicle.
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Re: welding delsol roof (RC000E)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The DelSol's were known as being flawed in design due to the fact that a "convertible" type car was based around a solid roof chassis....the civic. Structure was added for crash safety and added weight to the car, but they do flex, and as you pointed out they flex less with the roof in place. Further making the roof a permanent solid structure will essentially return it to being a solid roof chassis. There would certainly be no structural failures elsewhere.
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The DelSol's were known as being flawed in design due to the fact that a "convertible" type car was based around a solid roof chassis....the civic. Structure was added for crash safety and added weight to the car, but they do flex, and as you pointed out they flex less with the roof in place. Further making the roof a permanent solid structure will essentially return it to being a solid roof chassis. There would certainly be no structural failures elsewhere.
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Re: welding delsol roof (RC000E)
Ok i think your missing what i am saying here or im not saying it so you can understand......Im not saying that welding the roof up will make the car fail else where.Im saying that if you weld the targa up since the only thing really that will make it apart of the Whole roof will be the welds it will comeback through the body work(think molded body kit).What holds the targa inplace now...Its not like its bolted into place it has slide locks(if i remember correct).
So you say that "HONDA SPENT LOTS OF $$$$$$$ TO INSURE THAT IT [Del Sol] COULD FLEX WITHOUT BREAK OTHER PARTS OF THE CAR". I'd be interested in the documentation or location of this information.
I guess u think that they just cut the roof section they wanted out and didnt care if the car flexing(which is the nature of STEEL AND PLASTIC when force is applied) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....They spent $$$$$$$$$ to build the car so it could Flex and still retain its shape......If cars dont flex why do struttower bars work or roll cages.
So you say that "HONDA SPENT LOTS OF $$$$$$$ TO INSURE THAT IT [Del Sol] COULD FLEX WITHOUT BREAK OTHER PARTS OF THE CAR". I'd be interested in the documentation or location of this information.
I guess u think that they just cut the roof section they wanted out and didnt care if the car flexing(which is the nature of STEEL AND PLASTIC when force is applied) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....They spent $$$$$$$$$ to build the car so it could Flex and still retain its shape......If cars dont flex why do struttower bars work or roll cages.
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Re: welding delsol roof (Bigblockhatch)
Just leave the thread....anyone who reads your posts leaves dumber than when they came in.
Your points aren't even worth reading....your citing whether the top bolts or "slidelocks", you say they spend money to make it flex, blah blah blah....please head to the appearance section and stick with giving advice on molding body kits and painting cars dude.
Plain and simple, the delsol has a pretty beefy A-pillar, the B-pillar is obviously reinforced in the event of rollover, and the floor sills are taller. There's probably more added structure underneath, but I'm not going to crawl under my DelSol to go see it right now.
The fact is, is he has the trans roof, the roof panel has a very heavy duty structure to it. If he welds in entirely he's going to tie each A pillar to each B pillar with a roof panel that has more structure to it than a typical civic roof has. It WILL make the car stiffer torsionally, it will NOT allow the car to flex as much in several directions, and with the doors closed the cabin will become a more structural component between the front and rear suspension which support the weight of the vehicle.
/thread....at least as far as your concerned
Your points aren't even worth reading....your citing whether the top bolts or "slidelocks", you say they spend money to make it flex, blah blah blah....please head to the appearance section and stick with giving advice on molding body kits and painting cars dude.
Plain and simple, the delsol has a pretty beefy A-pillar, the B-pillar is obviously reinforced in the event of rollover, and the floor sills are taller. There's probably more added structure underneath, but I'm not going to crawl under my DelSol to go see it right now.
The fact is, is he has the trans roof, the roof panel has a very heavy duty structure to it. If he welds in entirely he's going to tie each A pillar to each B pillar with a roof panel that has more structure to it than a typical civic roof has. It WILL make the car stiffer torsionally, it will NOT allow the car to flex as much in several directions, and with the doors closed the cabin will become a more structural component between the front and rear suspension which support the weight of the vehicle.
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Re: welding delsol roof (Bigblockhatch)
It doesn't "flex and retain its shape"... I owned a del Sol, pretty much every del Sol has broken door latches because the chassis twists so much on hard cornering it tears the thin crappy latch metal 
They don't design cars to twist, the twisting is an unfortunate side effect from having no roof and a weak body structure.
They don't design cars to twist, the twisting is an unfortunate side effect from having no roof and a weak body structure.
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Being a sol owner (own two currently) for the last 7 years, having put cages in them, roll bars, etc, I know a thing or two about sols.
Who ever is saying it will tear out is right. You slapping in a factory body panel that is made of sheet metal, and butting it up to another piece of factory sheet metal, and welding a 3/16" gap on each side? How thick do you think that sheet metal is? It's pretty damn thin. The header panel above the windshield dents easily.
You're correct that welding the panel in will strengthen the whole car, but after driving for a while, those welds will rip out or distort the thin sheet metal. Obviously, if it is distorting, it is no longer structurally sound. Any body filler and paint that was done would be chipping, and you're starting over with an ugly begining.
The only way it could be pulled off is if a bunch of bracing was added. You would have to weld a frame of sorts that would intrude into your head space. Also, if you remove the stock latch assembly, you could make room for some tubed framing, but you lose the factory mounting for the seal along the top of the door. The best bet would be to do a 10pt cage...
There's more to consider here than slapping a panel in place and welding it.
Who ever is saying it will tear out is right. You slapping in a factory body panel that is made of sheet metal, and butting it up to another piece of factory sheet metal, and welding a 3/16" gap on each side? How thick do you think that sheet metal is? It's pretty damn thin. The header panel above the windshield dents easily.
You're correct that welding the panel in will strengthen the whole car, but after driving for a while, those welds will rip out or distort the thin sheet metal. Obviously, if it is distorting, it is no longer structurally sound. Any body filler and paint that was done would be chipping, and you're starting over with an ugly begining.
The only way it could be pulled off is if a bunch of bracing was added. You would have to weld a frame of sorts that would intrude into your head space. Also, if you remove the stock latch assembly, you could make room for some tubed framing, but you lose the factory mounting for the seal along the top of the door. The best bet would be to do a 10pt cage...
There's more to consider here than slapping a panel in place and welding it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bakeoff »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Being a sol owner (own two currently) for the last 7 years, having put cages in them, roll bars, etc, I know a thing or two about sols.
Who ever is saying it will tear out is right. You slapping in a factory body panel that is made of sheet metal, and butting it up to another piece of factory sheet metal, and welding a 3/16" gap on each side? How thick do you think that sheet metal is? It's pretty damn thin. The header panel above the windshield dents easily.
You're correct that welding the panel in will strengthen the whole car, but after driving for a while, those welds will rip out or distort the thin sheet metal. Obviously, if it is distorting, it is no longer structurally sound. Any body filler and paint that was done would be chipping, and you're starting over with an ugly begining.
The only way it could be pulled off is if a bunch of bracing was added. You would have to weld a frame of sorts that would intrude into your head space. Also, if you remove the stock latch assembly, you could make room for some tubed framing, but you lose the factory mounting for the seal along the top of the door. The best bet would be to do a 10pt cage...
There's more to consider here than slapping a panel in place and welding it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Please, don't take this the wrong way, but are you f*ckin retarded?
The welds will "rip" out? Welding a 3/16" gap....you just stick the panel in...that's how you do it smart guy? Where the hell are you trolls coming from?
Do you realize companies stretch goddamn Hummers to 50 damn feet. You think that doesn't flex? Do you see welds "ripping" out, paint flying off like confetti!!!??!?!?!?!?!!?
You ask "how thick do I think the sheetmetal is"? You say "The header panel dents "easily"! YOU DO REALIZE A UNIBODY CAR IS WELDED TOGETHER FROM THE FACTORY CORRECT!!!!????? You do realize that cars are made from metal that thick correct!
What in the hell are you people talking about? If you added a roof panel, with a typical substructure like a unibody car, your tying the panel and the entire substructure directly to other structural components of the chassis. It will NOT goddamn tear apart...what in the hell is wrong with you people!
When you stitch weld or seam weld a chassis you stiffen it. Does this stress cause paint to chip and the car to twist in directions the manufacturer who spent "big $$$$$$$$$" didn't plan for.
So, you think little roof skin is the structural component in the roof?
Modified by RC000E at 9:13 PM 6/11/2007
Who ever is saying it will tear out is right. You slapping in a factory body panel that is made of sheet metal, and butting it up to another piece of factory sheet metal, and welding a 3/16" gap on each side? How thick do you think that sheet metal is? It's pretty damn thin. The header panel above the windshield dents easily.
You're correct that welding the panel in will strengthen the whole car, but after driving for a while, those welds will rip out or distort the thin sheet metal. Obviously, if it is distorting, it is no longer structurally sound. Any body filler and paint that was done would be chipping, and you're starting over with an ugly begining.
The only way it could be pulled off is if a bunch of bracing was added. You would have to weld a frame of sorts that would intrude into your head space. Also, if you remove the stock latch assembly, you could make room for some tubed framing, but you lose the factory mounting for the seal along the top of the door. The best bet would be to do a 10pt cage...
There's more to consider here than slapping a panel in place and welding it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Please, don't take this the wrong way, but are you f*ckin retarded?
The welds will "rip" out? Welding a 3/16" gap....you just stick the panel in...that's how you do it smart guy? Where the hell are you trolls coming from?
Do you realize companies stretch goddamn Hummers to 50 damn feet. You think that doesn't flex? Do you see welds "ripping" out, paint flying off like confetti!!!??!?!?!?!?!!?
You ask "how thick do I think the sheetmetal is"? You say "The header panel dents "easily"! YOU DO REALIZE A UNIBODY CAR IS WELDED TOGETHER FROM THE FACTORY CORRECT!!!!????? You do realize that cars are made from metal that thick correct!
What in the hell are you people talking about? If you added a roof panel, with a typical substructure like a unibody car, your tying the panel and the entire substructure directly to other structural components of the chassis. It will NOT goddamn tear apart...what in the hell is wrong with you people!
When you stitch weld or seam weld a chassis you stiffen it. Does this stress cause paint to chip and the car to twist in directions the manufacturer who spent "big $$$$$$$$$" didn't plan for.
So, you think little roof skin is the structural component in the roof?
Modified by RC000E at 9:13 PM 6/11/2007
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Please, don't take this the wrong way, but are you f*ckin retarded?
The welds will "rip" out? Welding a 3/16" gap....you just stick the panel in...that's how you do it smart guy? Where the hell are you trolls coming from?
Do you realize companies stretch goddamn Hummers to 50 damn feet. You think that doesn't flex? Do you see welds "ripping" out, paint flying off like confetti!!!??!?!?!?!?!!?
You ask "how thick do I think the sheetmetal is"? You say "The header panel dents "easily"! YOU DO REALIZE A UNIBODY CAR IS WELDED TOGETHER FROM THE FACTORY CORRECT!!!!????? You do realize that cars are made from metal that thick correct!
What in the hell are you people talking about? If you added a roof panel, with a typical substructure like a unibody car, your tying the panel and the entire substructure directly to other structural components of the chassis. It will NOT goddamn tear apart...what in the hell is wrong with you people!
When you stitch weld or seam weld a chassis you stiffen it. Does this stress cause paint to chip and the car to twist in directions the manufacturer who spent "big $$$$$$$$$" didn't plan for.
So, you think little roof skin is the structural component in the roof?
Modified by RC000E at 9:13 PM 6/11/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
You just agreed with the guy after asking if he was retarded. And a hummer has a frame, big difference. Why do you think most limos have a cloth top? Heres a hint, its not because they look so cool.
Please, don't take this the wrong way, but are you f*ckin retarded?
The welds will "rip" out? Welding a 3/16" gap....you just stick the panel in...that's how you do it smart guy? Where the hell are you trolls coming from?
Do you realize companies stretch goddamn Hummers to 50 damn feet. You think that doesn't flex? Do you see welds "ripping" out, paint flying off like confetti!!!??!?!?!?!?!!?
You ask "how thick do I think the sheetmetal is"? You say "The header panel dents "easily"! YOU DO REALIZE A UNIBODY CAR IS WELDED TOGETHER FROM THE FACTORY CORRECT!!!!????? You do realize that cars are made from metal that thick correct!
What in the hell are you people talking about? If you added a roof panel, with a typical substructure like a unibody car, your tying the panel and the entire substructure directly to other structural components of the chassis. It will NOT goddamn tear apart...what in the hell is wrong with you people!
When you stitch weld or seam weld a chassis you stiffen it. Does this stress cause paint to chip and the car to twist in directions the manufacturer who spent "big $$$$$$$$$" didn't plan for.
So, you think little roof skin is the structural component in the roof?
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You just agreed with the guy after asking if he was retarded. And a hummer has a frame, big difference. Why do you think most limos have a cloth top? Heres a hint, its not because they look so cool.
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Most limo's have a cloth top? Right.....
Let's go with Mercede's limo's then, their unibody.....
Ok....everyone here is right, I'm wrong...I'm tired of arguing about this damn topic.
So officially here it is straight from the experts above. NOW HERE THIS!
Del Sol's will not benefit from a solid roof. According to the experts that have shown themselves, the metal on a Del Sol is too thin to weld. If you do weld it, the extreme flexibility of this vehicle will rip the welds apart.
Further expertise in this thread has concluded that Honda spent lots of money making the DelSol flexible enough to not break due to the lack of a roof, therefore if it had a roof it would destroy itself. It can have a roof, but only one that locks in, not one that is permanent. The locks apparently have enough slack to allow the DelSol to twist all around you.
Let's go with Mercede's limo's then, their unibody.....
Ok....everyone here is right, I'm wrong...I'm tired of arguing about this damn topic.
So officially here it is straight from the experts above. NOW HERE THIS!
Del Sol's will not benefit from a solid roof. According to the experts that have shown themselves, the metal on a Del Sol is too thin to weld. If you do weld it, the extreme flexibility of this vehicle will rip the welds apart.
Further expertise in this thread has concluded that Honda spent lots of money making the DelSol flexible enough to not break due to the lack of a roof, therefore if it had a roof it would destroy itself. It can have a roof, but only one that locks in, not one that is permanent. The locks apparently have enough slack to allow the DelSol to twist all around you.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you think most limos have a cloth top? Heres a hint, its not because they look so cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Vinyl over sheetmetal. Though a open top limo would be cool :D Gotta put on that rag top of the size of an army tent when it rains.
Really though RC, dont blow your top off, these kids probably have zero experience in actual body work, other than slapping on bondo and jbweld.
Vinyl over sheetmetal. Though a open top limo would be cool :D Gotta put on that rag top of the size of an army tent when it rains.
Really though RC, dont blow your top off, these kids probably have zero experience in actual body work, other than slapping on bondo and jbweld.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most limo's have a cloth top? Right.....
Let's go with Mercede's limo's then, their unibody.....
Ok....everyone here is right, I'm wrong...I'm tired of arguing about this damn topic.
So officially here it is straight from the experts above. NOW HERE THIS!
Del Sol's will not benefit from a solid roof. According to the experts that have shown themselves, the metal on a Del Sol is too thin to weld. If you do weld it, the extreme flexibility of this vehicle will rip the welds apart.
Further expertise in this thread has concluded that Honda spent lots of money making the DelSol flexible enough to not break due to the lack of a roof, therefore if it had a roof it would destroy itself. It can have a roof, but only one that locks in, not one that is permanent. The locks apparently have enough slack to allow the DelSol to twist all around you.
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i dont think you undertand what these guys are trying to argue. they arent saying stuff is gonna get stressed more because the roof will be more rigid, they are basically saying that it will still flex enough to crack the filler work done on all the seams after it is spot welded in place, kind of like when ricers fill thier rain channels on thier roofs. after it flexes enough the **** starts to crack because as im sure you know bondo/filler is brittle.
Let's go with Mercede's limo's then, their unibody.....
Ok....everyone here is right, I'm wrong...I'm tired of arguing about this damn topic.
So officially here it is straight from the experts above. NOW HERE THIS!
Del Sol's will not benefit from a solid roof. According to the experts that have shown themselves, the metal on a Del Sol is too thin to weld. If you do weld it, the extreme flexibility of this vehicle will rip the welds apart.
Further expertise in this thread has concluded that Honda spent lots of money making the DelSol flexible enough to not break due to the lack of a roof, therefore if it had a roof it would destroy itself. It can have a roof, but only one that locks in, not one that is permanent. The locks apparently have enough slack to allow the DelSol to twist all around you.
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i dont think you undertand what these guys are trying to argue. they arent saying stuff is gonna get stressed more because the roof will be more rigid, they are basically saying that it will still flex enough to crack the filler work done on all the seams after it is spot welded in place, kind of like when ricers fill thier rain channels on thier roofs. after it flexes enough the **** starts to crack because as im sure you know bondo/filler is brittle.
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The substructure of the roof would be spot welded, the panel itself would be a full seam, smoothed. If done correctly there would be no filler.
Oh and blow my top off....these little motherf*ckers haven't seen blow my top off. Blowing the top happened last night at my house....cops, blood, and barbq sauce everywhere. I was snatchin boys up by their neck.
This thread just caught me on a real bad day. It's 6:30am and I'm still up f*ckin pissed.
Oh and blow my top off....these little motherf*ckers haven't seen blow my top off. Blowing the top happened last night at my house....cops, blood, and barbq sauce everywhere. I was snatchin boys up by their neck.
This thread just caught me on a real bad day. It's 6:30am and I'm still up f*ckin pissed.
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Thats why you use bodysolder on the welded seam wont crack even if the body flexes.
Yeah well know-it-all **** me off too, especially when they're pulling info out of their asses. I've done enough body work to know what will work and what wont. I dont see any problems in putting a roof on a del sol. of course it wont work if you half-*** it. Even if its just spot welded it should work.
All cars flex some what. Some more than others, civics arent exactly rigid either, you can feel them flex under loading conditions, yet they dont have a problem with bondo flying off to space. I'd say probably mercedes has some of the most rigid unibody designs around.
wont crack even if the body flexes.Yeah well know-it-all **** me off too, especially when they're pulling info out of their asses. I've done enough body work to know what will work and what wont. I dont see any problems in putting a roof on a del sol. of course it wont work if you half-*** it. Even if its just spot welded it should work.
All cars flex some what. Some more than others, civics arent exactly rigid either, you can feel them flex under loading conditions, yet they dont have a problem with bondo flying off to space. I'd say probably mercedes has some of the most rigid unibody designs around.
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thanks guys :D
i was thinking of cutting part of the front A frame out so i could get a bar either side welded to that then run them to the rear roll beam, its pretty chunky inside there. then just drop the roof on, have it tigged up then where these 2 bars run across add bracing and re-fit the roof interior panells.
yes the entire car is spot welded in the factory, its scary looking at my non undersealed SiR at all the spot welds, or rarther lack of them holding it together :lol:
but ya on both my previous cars the drivers side door metal has SPLIT! near the lock, most annoying
i was thinking of cutting part of the front A frame out so i could get a bar either side welded to that then run them to the rear roll beam, its pretty chunky inside there. then just drop the roof on, have it tigged up then where these 2 bars run across add bracing and re-fit the roof interior panells.
yes the entire car is spot welded in the factory, its scary looking at my non undersealed SiR at all the spot welds, or rarther lack of them holding it together :lol:
but ya on both my previous cars the drivers side door metal has SPLIT! near the lock, most annoying
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Re: (redsolturbo)
RC000E.......Dont take this wrong but your ******* retarded.......I've done more CORRECT body work then most everyone on the forum..It will come back to show where it was i dont care who does it.The only way to do it correct would be to make a complete new roof skin and tie the a & b pillars together with some sort of bracing.Even if its welded completly you will have to do filler work cause the parts being welded are so thin that even controlled heat will still cause warping.
Can it be done.........YES
Will it show back up.....YES
Can it be done to not ever show......YES.but it would cost more than a DEL-SLOW is worth period.
Can it be done.........YES
Will it show back up.....YES
Can it be done to not ever show......YES.but it would cost more than a DEL-SLOW is worth period.
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Re: (redsolturbo)
rc...your right the noobs are wrong...
redsolturbo...it can be done...are you considering this for stiffness? or are you just sick of leaking roof seals?
I remember seeing a bar that went between the seatbelt attachments for the del sol...I bet that makes the paint flake off too (sorry couldn't help it!) but I bet that would stiffen things up considerably...and you could still take the top off
btw rc...wtf happened at your house... cops blood and barbq sauce...I almost fell outta my seat when I read that...lol
redsolturbo...it can be done...are you considering this for stiffness? or are you just sick of leaking roof seals?
I remember seeing a bar that went between the seatbelt attachments for the del sol...I bet that makes the paint flake off too (sorry couldn't help it!) but I bet that would stiffen things up considerably...and you could still take the top off
btw rc...wtf happened at your house... cops blood and barbq sauce...I almost fell outta my seat when I read that...lol