Rear sway bar options - 26mm+
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Rear sway bar options - 26mm+
What manufacturers offer rear itr sway bars that are 26mm or larger... adjustable or non-adjustable? I know there is Mugen, but I'm not interested in paying for the name and the marketing hype that surrounds it. No need to tell me how much oversteer, etc. this is for a track only car with very high spring rates (1,000 lb+).
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (TPB)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TPB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">high spring rates (1,000 lb+).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right... It's hard to find the Mugen 26mm anyway. A Spec Racing (ASR) makes a 32mm adjustable one, you can purchase it from King.
Right... It's hard to find the Mugen 26mm anyway. A Spec Racing (ASR) makes a 32mm adjustable one, you can purchase it from King.
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (JjuuN R)
I believe ASR makes about the only bar that is 26 mm + stiff other than Mugen. If 25 mm will work for you - look at the Cusco non-adjustable for about $250.
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (itrdave)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itrdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look at the Cusco non-adjustable for about $250.</TD></TR></TABLE>
little high jack sorry but where can i find this? ive been on the hunt for one for a while now and finding a good place that sells cusco is not that easy
little high jack sorry but where can i find this? ive been on the hunt for one for a while now and finding a good place that sells cusco is not that easy
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (JjuuN R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Right... It's hard to find the Mugen 26mm anyway. A Spec Racing (ASR) makes a 32mm adjustable one, you can purchase it from King.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What's so hard to believe? You can see from his avatar that it's a race car.....
Right... It's hard to find the Mugen 26mm anyway. A Spec Racing (ASR) makes a 32mm adjustable one, you can purchase it from King.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What's so hard to believe? You can see from his avatar that it's a race car.....
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Black R)
Alex Motorsports also makes a 25mm Rear sway bar.. Its pricey, at $380, but if you want it, price doesn't matter...right? Personally, I'd like to try it out.
http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=5
http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=5
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Circuit Star-29)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Circuit Star-29 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alex Motorsports also makes a 25mm rear sway bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I run.....works for me......
That's what I run.....works for me......
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Black R)
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What's so hard to believe? You can see from his avatar that it's a race car..... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct:
I'm looking into the asr 32mm bar - thanks for the heads up.
What's so hard to believe? You can see from his avatar that it's a race car..... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct:
I'm looking into the asr 32mm bar - thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (TPB)
The ASR 32mm bar is hallow. It is not as stiff as you might think. Of course depending on a lot of other factors, torsional stiffness should be about the same as a 25mm,26mm solid bar
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Team Bukkake Sucks!!!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Bukkake Sucks!!! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ASR 32mm bar is hallow. It is not as stiff as you might think. Of course depending on a lot of other factors, torsional stiffness should be about the same as a 25mm,26mm solid bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol who says hollow bars are "less sitffer" than solid?
go study some more of strength of materials
lol who says hollow bars are "less sitffer" than solid?
go study some more of strength of materials
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (itr1244)
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lol who says hollow bars are "less sitffer" than solid?
go study some more of strength of materials</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do. see for your self
http://www.whiteline.com.au/do...r.pdf
Although they are lighter weight. Holow sway bars have to have a much larger OD to have the same torsional strenght/stiffness that a solid sway bar with a much smaller OD would have
lol who says hollow bars are "less sitffer" than solid?
go study some more of strength of materials</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do. see for your self
http://www.whiteline.com.au/do...r.pdf
Although they are lighter weight. Holow sway bars have to have a much larger OD to have the same torsional strenght/stiffness that a solid sway bar with a much smaller OD would have
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Team Bukkake Sucks!!!)
Torsional stiffness is determined by
Do: Outside Diameter
Di: Inside Diameter
Do^4 and Di^4
So for a solid bar the factor is Do^4
For a hollow bar it's (Do^4 - Di^4)
Then just compare the two (Do^4 - Di^4) hollow/Do^4 solid
So a 32mm OD bar with a 2mm wall is 11% stiffer than a 25mm solid bar. Change the wall thickness to 3mm and the hollow bar is now 51% stiffer.
Bottom line: small diameter bars and the core of large diameter solid bars do very little.
Go ASR.
Do: Outside Diameter
Di: Inside Diameter
Do^4 and Di^4
So for a solid bar the factor is Do^4
For a hollow bar it's (Do^4 - Di^4)
Then just compare the two (Do^4 - Di^4) hollow/Do^4 solid
So a 32mm OD bar with a 2mm wall is 11% stiffer than a 25mm solid bar. Change the wall thickness to 3mm and the hollow bar is now 51% stiffer.
Bottom line: small diameter bars and the core of large diameter solid bars do very little.
Go ASR.
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (SMSP)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Torsional stiffness is determined by
Do: Outside Diameter
Di: Inside Diameter
Do^4 and Di^4
So for a solid bar the factor is Do^4
For a hollow bar it's (Do^4 - Di^4)
Then just compare the two (Do^4 - Di^4) hollow/Do^4 solid
So a 32mm OD bar with a 2mm wall is 11% stiffer than a 25mm solid bar. Change the wall thickness to 3mm and the hollow bar is now 51% stiffer.
Bottom line: small diameter bars and the core of large diameter solid bars do very little.
Go ASR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Bukkake Sucks!!! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The ASR 32mm bar is hallow. It is not as stiff as you might think. Of course depending on a lot of other factors, torsional stiffness should be about the same as a 25mm,26mm solid bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like i said earlier the 32mm hallow bar is about the same stiffness as a 25-26mm solid bar
Do: Outside Diameter
Di: Inside Diameter
Do^4 and Di^4
So for a solid bar the factor is Do^4
For a hollow bar it's (Do^4 - Di^4)
Then just compare the two (Do^4 - Di^4) hollow/Do^4 solid
So a 32mm OD bar with a 2mm wall is 11% stiffer than a 25mm solid bar. Change the wall thickness to 3mm and the hollow bar is now 51% stiffer.
Bottom line: small diameter bars and the core of large diameter solid bars do very little.
Go ASR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team Bukkake Sucks!!! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The ASR 32mm bar is hallow. It is not as stiff as you might think. Of course depending on a lot of other factors, torsional stiffness should be about the same as a 25mm,26mm solid bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like i said earlier the 32mm hallow bar is about the same stiffness as a 25-26mm solid bar
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (Team Bukkake Sucks!!!)
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Like i said earlier the 32mm hallow bar is about the same stiffness as a 25-26mm solid bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
No it's not. Do the math.
The ASR 32mm bar has a wall thickness of 2.5mm so it's 32.4% stiffer than the 25mm solid bar and 13.2% stiffer than a 26mm bar. Also the solid bars weigh about 2x that of the hollow bar. So if you want something that's less stiff and weighs alot more than go with a solid bar.
Like i said earlier the 32mm hallow bar is about the same stiffness as a 25-26mm solid bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
No it's not. Do the math.
The ASR 32mm bar has a wall thickness of 2.5mm so it's 32.4% stiffer than the 25mm solid bar and 13.2% stiffer than a 26mm bar. Also the solid bars weigh about 2x that of the hollow bar. So if you want something that's less stiff and weighs alot more than go with a solid bar.
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Re: Rear sway bar options - 26mm+ (SMSP)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No it's not. Do the math.
The ASR 32mm bar has a wall thickness of 2.5mm so it's 32.4% stiffer than the 25mm solid bar and 13.2% stiffer than a 26mm bar. Also the solid bars weigh about 2x that of the hollow bar. So if you want something that's less stiff and weighs alot more than go with a solid bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So in short, ASR ftmfw!!11
No it's not. Do the math.
The ASR 32mm bar has a wall thickness of 2.5mm so it's 32.4% stiffer than the 25mm solid bar and 13.2% stiffer than a 26mm bar. Also the solid bars weigh about 2x that of the hollow bar. So if you want something that's less stiff and weighs alot more than go with a solid bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So in short, ASR ftmfw!!11
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