I just swaped my h23 for a jspec h22 I still have my h23 tranny, well after the swap I raced my friends Eg with his LS integra Swap and he Whooped me by 2 cars, Man was i pissed I mean I have 200hp vs his 145hp Is it cuz my car is a tank and his hatch is lite as hell, was that supposed to happen or is it cuz im using the h23 tranny what is better
h23 or h22 tranny on my new h22 engine My vtec worked and everything I just dont get it and what is a good RPM to launch from the start when u race quarter mile with a prelude?

 

it could be many things. for once the hatch is lighter than the lude. second, he might be a better driver than you. third, the h23 tranny has slightly longer gears than the h22 but many say its not much of a difference. im running the same setup and its ok. but i rather have an h22 tranny. my friend had the same setup and would beat hatches with ls all day and bad. he was a good driver. so yeah

 

That h23 tranny ain't helping at all, thats purely a boost tranny because of the long gears.

 

if you can afford it and find it get a euro-r tranny. shortest gearing ratio for any H tranny

 

don't let him think the tranny is why he's not destroying the civic hatches though.

Off the line depends on tires. if your tires grip good you can take off at higher rpms. but if your tires are **** your going to have to take off around 2-3 rpms and run your gears out untill when ever your car stops making power.

So find out when your car stops making power, and shift on those points. Drag out your first second and third gears though. Thats how you'll have to make up time with the 2.3 tranny

my cars not pushing more than 210 hp but i've never had a problem with any other honda's in my town. Never raced an s2000 though lol

 

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or you could get an aftermarket final drive for your current tranny........the b-series tranny has much shorter gears than any of the h-series.......it does make a pretty big difference

i don't know about the exact b-series gear ratios, but i compiled a list of H/F-series ratios and they are in the FAQs

 

If you had a Midget performing oral sex on you while you raced you would have won.
for N00b post!

 

thats a great idea too. For reliability the oem stock 2.3L M tranny wasn't built that bad. with a bit of modding it would be a cost effective solution.

Work on the tires i would say first before doing any tranny or gearing work maybe. I would think depending on the state of your tires that would be cheaper than regearing ur tranny

And work on ur takeoffs lol.

 

The Old H22 vs H23 trans debate......what a joke!
Yah, swap in expensive trans parts to make up for losing to an LS hatch!!!
Yippie!!!
Learn to drive would be the 1st thing.....then go to a track so you can post your times and SMART people can figure them out.....
He whopped me by 2 cars just means youre a Ricer......
You guys seem to think the H23 trans is as different from an H22 trans as an F22 trans....
Now I'll be nice.....how about tuning?!?! 15-20whp from VTEC x-over tuning alone.

 

yeah no ****.

 

This Euro R tranny isnt that from the acura TSX and Does it just bolt on to the 4th gen h22 engine

 

Speaking of the 00/01 EuroR trans not the current used with the K series engine.
That obviously wouldn't work with the H22...
People love the EuroR gearing although I think it has some downfalls. On some RoadCourses the shorter gearing would mean more 4th gear than a US/JDM would provide. I can do 100+ in 3rd with my race car.

 

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You're mean.

-Chris

 

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If it was from the TSX, why would it be called the Euro R? That is a K series motor, will not bolt to a h/f series motor.

They are referring to Euro R Accords.

 

If i went with boost is it better to have the h23 tranny for the longer gears and how many PSI can go up to with stock internals

 

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Oh yeah mister smarty pants? If it was called a "Euro R" tranny, why would it come from a Japan-market car instead of a European car? Any why would anyone want to put Accord parts in their Prelude, the Accord is a grocery getter.

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Maybe. 10. Boost it

-Chris

 

practice more
spend on your suspension

 

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zomg

 

i say alot of it has to do with the driver and like nirvtec said tuning

 

I lost that race once to a guy I worked with at a Honda dealership. He had a LS EG with a 5zigen JASMA header, RSR Exmag exhaust, and a Si tranny, plus he was on slipstreams and his car was gutted. The motor was in tip-top shape, than again, so was mine. I did have bad cv-shafts at the time though, they shook my car violently and were toast after that race.


Modified by fast_honda at 9:26 AM 6/7/2007

 

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Oh yeah mister smarty pants? If it was called a "Euro R" tranny, why would it come from a Japan-market car instead of a European car? Any why would anyone want to put Accord parts in their Prelude, the Accord is a grocery getter.


Maybe. 10. Boost it

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Well that can vary as far as what psi you run as to what turbocharger you are using. Remember, there is alot more airflow @ 10psi say in an HKS T51R SPL turbocharger (big), as compared to something smaller like 10psi from a 14b off of a DSM. Hope this will help to open your mind to some research before tackling a boost build.