ITR 96 spec 4x114 lug pat on ef?
i seen a good deal for this conversion on hmotors so i was wondering if it is possible to do on an ef? ive searched for any info on this and i cant find anything, not even archived. i dont know if im searching all wrong. any help will help. has anybody done this or has researched this?
also a good deal here on h-t
http://www.hondamarketplace.co...62095
also a good deal here on h-t
http://www.hondamarketplace.co...62095
i would think if u had the front dc knuckles swapped on2 the ef for the dc calipers and rotors that everything would work. ive "heard" that the dc and da rear trailing arms are different lengths.
im curious tho , wuts the advantage of having a 4 lug type r lug pattern ???
im curious tho , wuts the advantage of having a 4 lug type r lug pattern ???
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im curious tho , wuts the advantage of having a 4 lug type r lug pattern ??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
no advantage. i like the itr rims in the 4x114. its also more affordable than the 5x114.
im curious tho , wuts the advantage of having a 4 lug type r lug pattern ??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
no advantage. i like the itr rims in the 4x114. its also more affordable than the 5x114.
From people who have done it, all DC parts will just bolt up and offer positive camber for lowered cars. Go do it
. I'd have 4x114 on my car, but I opted to buy a 6 point autopower first
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. I'd have 4x114 on my car, but I opted to buy a 6 point autopower first
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the da and dc are different ! the wheels looks like theyre gonna fall off if u use da on a dc. vis versa on da to dc etc .
use da knuckles for the itr calipers . the calipers will need the itr rotors .
use da knuckles for the itr calipers . the calipers will need the itr rotors .
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 4x114 knuckles are pretty damn similar if not the same as DA knuckles if I remember; can someone verify that for me?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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so what your telling me is that the da knucks will bolt rite up?
i see a lot of yes and no's on this subject.. TTT for more input!
so what your telling me is that the da knucks will bolt rite up?
i see a lot of yes and no's on this subject.. TTT for more input!
this is the write-up for the 5 lug don't see why this would be any diff
http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/5lug.ef-da/
http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/5lug.ef-da/
There's someone on this board with a yellow y-49 CRX and 4x114. Find him and PM him for a definite answer. I believe he said that everything from the DC bolted right up
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Edit: I believe it's this guy: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2003677
. Edit: I believe it's this guy: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2003677
Errrm, do you know that the '96 type R brakes are only GSR/DA sized?
To do it properly you need Civic Hybrid front hubs pressed into EF knuckles and the rear spindles off your '96 swap or possibly Prelude hubs mounted on rear DA spindles.
I've never seen the backs of the '96 spindles to see if the bolt patterns are the same but since the DA/DC/EF/EG patterns all seem to be the same....
In the end a DA swap would be easier.
Don't forget to grab the correct size spare too.
To do it properly you need Civic Hybrid front hubs pressed into EF knuckles and the rear spindles off your '96 swap or possibly Prelude hubs mounted on rear DA spindles.
I've never seen the backs of the '96 spindles to see if the bolt patterns are the same but since the DA/DC/EF/EG patterns all seem to be the same....
In the end a DA swap would be easier.
Don't forget to grab the correct size spare too.
O.K. here is the low down on what I did.
1989 CRX Si with a B series swap.
I can not speak for any hybrid, DA, GSR, Prelude, 5X114 ect or any other combination of parts EXCEPT for the 96 ITR 4X114.3 brake and lug conversion.
When I purchased my setup it came with (2) front knuckles, including the calipers, rotors and brake lines. It did not come with the UCA's, LCA's, or outer tie rod's.
On the rear end it came with (2) trailing arms. It is important here that everything is attached to these when buying. The toe arms, chamber arms, brake lines, and ebrake lines (disclaimer: im not sure if I called arms on the rear side the exact right names.)
At this point, it is just like Lego's. EVERYTHING bolts right up. There is no machining or any other BS. Just reuse your stock front UCAs, LCAs and the outer tie rods. Attach the brake lines to the hard lines to complete the front. The rear is even easier.
I had bled brake systems before but when it came to bleeding this setup it was a friggen nightmare.
Well I don't know if my stock 7/8 master cylinder mysteriously went dead on me or if it just couldn't push enough brake fluid through the new system to get them bled. Anyway, I purchased an 89 Prelude 1" MC and they bled right away.
Lastly, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
1989 CRX Si with a B series swap.
I can not speak for any hybrid, DA, GSR, Prelude, 5X114 ect or any other combination of parts EXCEPT for the 96 ITR 4X114.3 brake and lug conversion.
When I purchased my setup it came with (2) front knuckles, including the calipers, rotors and brake lines. It did not come with the UCA's, LCA's, or outer tie rod's.
On the rear end it came with (2) trailing arms. It is important here that everything is attached to these when buying. The toe arms, chamber arms, brake lines, and ebrake lines (disclaimer: im not sure if I called arms on the rear side the exact right names.)
At this point, it is just like Lego's. EVERYTHING bolts right up. There is no machining or any other BS. Just reuse your stock front UCAs, LCAs and the outer tie rods. Attach the brake lines to the hard lines to complete the front. The rear is even easier.
I had bled brake systems before but when it came to bleeding this setup it was a friggen nightmare.
Well I don't know if my stock 7/8 master cylinder mysteriously went dead on me or if it just couldn't push enough brake fluid through the new system to get them bled. Anyway, I purchased an 89 Prelude 1" MC and they bled right away. Lastly, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">O.K. here is the low down on what I did.
1989 CRX Si with a B series swap.
I can not speak for any hybrid, DA, GSR, Prelude, 5X114 ect or any other combination of parts EXCEPT for the 96 ITR 4X114.3 brake and lug conversion.
When I purchased my setup it came with (2) front knuckles, including the calipers, rotors and brake lines. It did not come with the UCA's, LCA's, or outer tie rod's.
On the rear end it came with (2) trailing arms. It is important here that everything is attached to these when buying. The toe arms, chamber arms, brake lines, and ebrake lines (disclaimer: im not sure if I called arms on the rear side the exact right names.)
At this point, it is just like Lego's. EVERYTHING bolts right up. There is no machining or any other BS. Just reuse your stock front UCAs, LCAs and the outer tie rods. Attach the brake lines to the hard lines to complete the front. The rear is even easier.
I had bled brake systems before but when it came to bleeding this setup it was a friggen nightmare.
Well I don't know if my stock 7/8 master cylinder mysteriously went dead on me or if it just couldn't push enough brake fluid through the new system to get them bled. Anyway, I purchased an 89 Prelude 1" MC and they bled right away.
Lastly, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
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any objections anyone?
1989 CRX Si with a B series swap.
I can not speak for any hybrid, DA, GSR, Prelude, 5X114 ect or any other combination of parts EXCEPT for the 96 ITR 4X114.3 brake and lug conversion.
When I purchased my setup it came with (2) front knuckles, including the calipers, rotors and brake lines. It did not come with the UCA's, LCA's, or outer tie rod's.
On the rear end it came with (2) trailing arms. It is important here that everything is attached to these when buying. The toe arms, chamber arms, brake lines, and ebrake lines (disclaimer: im not sure if I called arms on the rear side the exact right names.)
At this point, it is just like Lego's. EVERYTHING bolts right up. There is no machining or any other BS. Just reuse your stock front UCAs, LCAs and the outer tie rods. Attach the brake lines to the hard lines to complete the front. The rear is even easier.
I had bled brake systems before but when it came to bleeding this setup it was a friggen nightmare.
Well I don't know if my stock 7/8 master cylinder mysteriously went dead on me or if it just couldn't push enough brake fluid through the new system to get them bled. Anyway, I purchased an 89 Prelude 1" MC and they bled right away. Lastly, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>any objections anyone?
I admit that is an extremely clean Rex.
I love those wheels, in fact in my sig I am looking for a set.
But unless you are swapping to 114 to run those rims, it is a waste of money.
The 4 lug ITR swap does not have "ITR brakes" it has standard Integra sized brakes except it uses bastard rotors that you can't seem to get here in the US.
For $200-$250 you can get a DA brake swap and run any 4x100 rim you want including the ones you already own (read no extra $)
If you do find a set of those rims let me know. I will convert to run them, I like them that much.
As far as the master cylinder, 7/8 is kinda small. An Integra uses a 15/16 or a 1" on the ABS cars.
I love those wheels, in fact in my sig I am looking for a set.
But unless you are swapping to 114 to run those rims, it is a waste of money.
The 4 lug ITR swap does not have "ITR brakes" it has standard Integra sized brakes except it uses bastard rotors that you can't seem to get here in the US.
For $200-$250 you can get a DA brake swap and run any 4x100 rim you want including the ones you already own (read no extra $)
If you do find a set of those rims let me know. I will convert to run them, I like them that much.
As far as the master cylinder, 7/8 is kinda small. An Integra uses a 15/16 or a 1" on the ABS cars.
I got an extremely good deal on my setup...probably a better deal than if I were to ever try and purchase the DA setup. I wanted bigger front brakes and went from drum to disc in the rear.
I didnt do this just for the looks.........
I didnt do this just for the looks.........
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