What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 04:58 PM
  #1  
.RTErnie's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 0
From: BeLlInGhAm, Wa
Default What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges?

what kind of tool was used to sand this flange?



or what do you use?
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 05:33 PM
  #2  
standbackimapro's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,393
Likes: 3
From: BRICKTOWN, NEW JERSEY, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.R T E r n i e)

Im kinda wondering why you have the R/TErnie email and everything in your Sig, Unless your them..

And im also kinda wondering why someone thats been fabricating and tuning for 5 years, and dosnt know how to sand down a flange ( if That is you)
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 05:33 PM
  #3  
splitime's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,695
Likes: 0
From: Chicagoland, usa
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.R T E r n i e)

Looks like it was just laid down on a bench belt sander.
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 05:51 PM
  #4  
david@didrace.com's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 0
From: Lemont, IL, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (standbackimapro)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standbackimapro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im kinda wondering why you have the R/TErnie email and everything in your Sig, Unless your them..

And im also kinda wondering why someone thats been fabricating and tuning for 5 years, and dosnt know how to sand down a flange ( if That is you) </TD></TR></TABLE>

And I'm kinda wondering why you're such an *******.

Typically just a belt sander is used. This was a notcher/sander we used to have and the top part of it covered under the yellow cover was the part that you'd sand surfaces flat with.

Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 05:56 PM
  #5  
Race Egr's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 2
From: insanity
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (david@didrace.com)

didnt that thing almost kill you
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 05:56 PM
  #6  
CSaddict's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
From: manchester, CT, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (standbackimapro)

Im kinda wondering why you have the R/TErnie email and everything in your Sig, Unless your them..
And im also kinda wondering why someone thats been fabricating and tuning for 5 years, and dosnt know how to sand down a flange ( if That is you)


This is a very valid statement.
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:08 PM
  #7  
CivicVX94's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 0
From: Florence, Ky, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (CSaddict)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CSaddict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im kinda wondering why you have the R/TErnie email and everything in your Sig, Unless your them..
And im also kinda wondering why someone thats been fabricating and tuning for 5 years, and dosnt know how to sand down a flange ( if That is you)
This is a very valid statement.</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe he's not their fabricator
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:23 PM
  #8  
Race Egr's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 2
From: insanity
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (CivicVX94)

Ok, seriously who gives a expletive if he's been fabing for 5 years, maybe he was just curious what sander they were using. Oh I forgot its not ok to ask questions here anymore, and he has been fabbing for 5 years so he knows everything. Thats how you learn you ask questions so quite ruining this thread if you dont have anything nice to say then dont bother posting.
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 09:54 PM
  #9  
.RTErnie's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 0
From: BeLlInGhAm, Wa
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (dr.NAPIER)

yeah Ive been fabbing for 5 years and I don't do this...never have. I bolt my turbine inlet to a turbine housing before I weld it. I also bolt my wasteagtes to my gate flanges, and cylinder heads to head flanges.... therefor I have no warpage issues. I was curious what other people used to sand their flanges since its a fairly common practice here on HT.,..and the only sanders I've seen are extremely expensive (3 phase ~ 1000 bucks) IMO i'd rather not spend that much money and was curious as to what other people used besides the pretty expensive ones.

And btw the ***** who are questioning my fabrication ability... Post up some pics of your fab.



















now what exactly were you saying about YOUR fabrication skills?
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 10:03 PM
  #10  
redboost10's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,056
Likes: 0
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.R T E r n i e)

eric is a hell of a fabricator, i just cant stand him cause hes a mopar *******
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 10:05 PM
  #11  
PSI2HI's Avatar
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,116
Likes: 0
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.R T E r n i e)

Sweet chrome spray paint!
Reply
Old May 31, 2007 | 10:10 PM
  #12  
PSI2HI's Avatar
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,116
Likes: 0
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (PSI2HI)

All our fixtures are made of 1/2"-3/4" plate so we usually dont get much of any warpage. If you run into problems try using a slight sheetmetal shim in the center of the flange to a prebow in it so when it does pull it'll pull itself to flat, it's worked very well for us.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2007 | 09:08 AM
  #13  
.RTErnie's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 0
From: BeLlInGhAm, Wa
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (PSI2HI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PSI2HI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> try using a slight sheetmetal shim in the center of the flange to a prebow in it so when it does pull it'll pull itself to flat, it's worked very well for us.</TD></TR></TABLE>

zing! excellent idea. I could just cut one of my gaskets up and use it :D thanks
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:49 PM
  #14  
bigluelok's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,189
Likes: 0
From: altadena, CA, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.RTErnie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah Ive been fabbing for 5 years and I don't do this...never have. I bolt my turbine inlet to a turbine housing before I weld it. I also bolt my wasteagtes to my gate flanges, and cylinder heads to head flanges.... therefor I have no warpage issues. I was curious what other people used to sand their flanges since its a fairly common practice here on HT.,..and the only sanders I've seen are extremely expensive (3 phase ~ 1000 bucks) IMO i'd rather not spend that much money and was curious as to what other people used besides the pretty expensive ones.

And btw the ***** who are questioning my fabrication ability... Post up some pics of your fab.



















now what exactly were you saying about YOUR fabrication skills? </TD></TR></TABLE>
damn that manifold looks crazy
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:42 PM
  #15  
tony1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,814
Likes: 8
From: Dallas, TX, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.RTErnie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah Ive been fabbing for 5 years and I don't do this...never have. I bolt my turbine inlet to a turbine housing before I weld it. I also bolt my wasteagtes to my gate flanges, and cylinder heads to head flanges.... therefor I have no warpage issues. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, that's a step in the right direction, but they still warp and should be resurfaced.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:11 AM
  #16  
KFMRC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
From: Cream Ridge, NJ
Default

Tony's right
I don't care if you bolt them to a 5" thick plate they will still need to be resurfaced after welding.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:13 AM
  #17  
PeakBoost's Avatar
B*A*N*N*E*D
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,661
Likes: 0
Default Re: (KFMRC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KFMRC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Tony's right
I don't care if you bolt them to a 5" thick plate they will still need to be resurfaced after welding. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Reply
Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:29 AM
  #18  
all_motor_mike's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 972
Likes: 1
From: Surprise, AZ
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (tony1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, that's a step in the right direction, but they still warp and should be resurfaced. </TD></TR></TABLE>

x3........... i bolt my stuff to 1" thick steel plate and they still warp......... i just take them to the machine shop where i have all my stuff done and have them throw it on the belt sander.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:09 PM
  #19  
viet_boi_racin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR, USA
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (all_motor_mike)

Eric! Just weld that **** up and give it to me. I'll machine it at work for you. I'll give you unlimited sanding if you give me a free manifold
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:31 AM
  #20  
Sims's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (viet_boi_racin)

I've always used a 12" disc sander. I don't know how any shop could get away without having one, I use it all the time to flatten tubing, flanges, etc...
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:49 AM
  #21  
Mr.E.G.'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,057
Likes: 1
From: mother russia
Default

im trying to comprehend what you guys are saying here.

after you weld a manifold together you then grind down the surface of the flange that bolts up to whatever so that it sits flat against the thing its bolted to, and this is done because even if its bolted down to a jig thats made of 4 million inch thick metal it still warps and therefore wont seal properly if you just bolt it up after welding.

is that about right?
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:50 AM
  #22  
Mr.E.G.'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,057
Likes: 1
From: mother russia
Default Re: What kind of sanding bench do you use for flanges? (.RTErnie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



















now what exactly were you saying about YOUR fabrication skills? </TD></TR></TABLE>

you truly are the king of kings
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:11 AM
  #23  
all_motor_mike's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 972
Likes: 1
From: Surprise, AZ
Default Re: (Mr.E.G.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im trying to comprehend what you guys are saying here.

after you weld a manifold together you then grind down the surface of the flange that bolts up to whatever so that it sits flat against the thing its bolted to, and this is done because even if its bolted down to a jig thats made of 4 million inch thick metal it still warps and therefore wont seal properly if you just bolt it up after welding.

is that about right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes thats right
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 12:51 PM
  #24  
GTiR NX's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Victoria, BC, Canada
Default

If you tack weld the out side first then weld out inside of a flange first that should eliminate most/ all the of warpage.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ej6hatchie
Tech / Misc
2
Oct 5, 2008 08:01 PM
HT Chaplain
Welding / Fabrication
31
Aug 7, 2007 06:41 AM
Fred Allen Burge
Welding / Fabrication
11
Apr 7, 2006 08:39 PM
1.8
Welding / Fabrication
9
Mar 4, 2005 03:38 PM
slooogsr
Forced Induction
12
Nov 10, 2003 08:15 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:42 AM.