Drag or Fmax
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Drag or Fmax
What would a better option. i can get the fmax for 3750 shipped, compared to 3199 plus shipping..........
need some advice, i've been holding out way to long, bought a turbo and sold it due to some unexpected circumstances...
Any turbo groupbuys going on in the near future?
this would be for a type R with aem ems
boost pressure?
head gasket?
already have a high flow fuel pump.
help me out.
thanks
need some advice, i've been holding out way to long, bought a turbo and sold it due to some unexpected circumstances...
Any turbo groupbuys going on in the near future?
this would be for a type R with aem ems
boost pressure?
head gasket?
already have a high flow fuel pump.
help me out.
thanks
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Re: Drag or Fmax (kitkatR)
drag 
there is a dude that sell drag kitas for like 2895 or so shipped.
http://www.exospeed.com/store.htm
there is a dude that sell drag kitas for like 2895 or so shipped.
http://www.exospeed.com/store.htm
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Re: Drag or Fmax (lsturbo)
the problem here is.....people say "drag" or "fmax" and thats all they say. hardly anyone gives reasons as to why they recommend that - besides "the other one is crap" or whatever.
the max rev kits sound nice. but then again, its impossible to know unless you buy them yourself and figure it out since hardly anyone posts anything useful regarding why they think some systems are crap.
the max rev kits sound nice. but then again, its impossible to know unless you buy them yourself and figure it out since hardly anyone posts anything useful regarding why they think some systems are crap.
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Re: Drag or Fmax (Double 06)
thats too much for the fmax.
If you get the fmax, have them make it without the mf2 and extra injectors. you then won't need the MSD BTM because you will take your saved money and get RC440s or larger injectors and a Hondata or other standalone and be a happy guy.
Drag and Fmax are comparable. With either one I recommend you get a TO4E compressor side on the turbo.
If you get the fmax, have them make it without the mf2 and extra injectors. you then won't need the MSD BTM because you will take your saved money and get RC440s or larger injectors and a Hondata or other standalone and be a happy guy.
Drag and Fmax are comparable. With either one I recommend you get a TO4E compressor side on the turbo.
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Re: Drag or Fmax (speeds)
What I wrote in another Fmax post:
[Modified by 00SilverLS, 10:13 PM 6/3/2002]
I guess i'll add my $0.02.
Personally, I love the Fmax kit. Fitment is great, quality is great, and although they are bad w/ answering calls, they really do have good customer service. They fixed a bad manifold for me and paid for overnight shipping both ways, and they made me a new set of pipes for free because the ones I had didn't fit exactly right. All in all I'm VERY happy w/ them.
As MaraiZ said, quality is def top notch. The manifold is great. Only complaint is the downpipe. Its only 2.25" and has a closed loop wastegate that is very poorly designed. If you order the kit, order it open loop and either run it like that or pay to have the wastegate put back into the downpipe right before the cat.
Now about the MF2. Although many disagree with me I still say it is not a bad unit. Probem is that its tunable, and everyone (yes, me too) just run it strait out of the box and untuned expecting it to be good. If its set to rich, like mine, it'll be slow. If its too lean, like MiraiZ, you'll blow something. It needs to be tuned.
There are people running 12lbs. daily w/ the MF2, but it was dyno tuned w/ a wideband O2. If you really wanna do it right, ditch the intake pipe placement and install the injectors in custome bungs in the manifold....but that gets to be a lot of work. All in all, I say the FMAX fuel setup is great for low (9psi and lower) boost...I say it beats the hell out of running 120 psi of fuel pressure w/ a fmu.
Oh yeah getting a BTM is nice too.
All in all:
Personally, I love the Fmax kit. Fitment is great, quality is great, and although they are bad w/ answering calls, they really do have good customer service. They fixed a bad manifold for me and paid for overnight shipping both ways, and they made me a new set of pipes for free because the ones I had didn't fit exactly right. All in all I'm VERY happy w/ them.
As MaraiZ said, quality is def top notch. The manifold is great. Only complaint is the downpipe. Its only 2.25" and has a closed loop wastegate that is very poorly designed. If you order the kit, order it open loop and either run it like that or pay to have the wastegate put back into the downpipe right before the cat.
Now about the MF2. Although many disagree with me I still say it is not a bad unit. Probem is that its tunable, and everyone (yes, me too) just run it strait out of the box and untuned expecting it to be good. If its set to rich, like mine, it'll be slow. If its too lean, like MiraiZ, you'll blow something. It needs to be tuned.
There are people running 12lbs. daily w/ the MF2, but it was dyno tuned w/ a wideband O2. If you really wanna do it right, ditch the intake pipe placement and install the injectors in custome bungs in the manifold....but that gets to be a lot of work. All in all, I say the FMAX fuel setup is great for low (9psi and lower) boost...I say it beats the hell out of running 120 psi of fuel pressure w/ a fmu.
Oh yeah getting a BTM is nice too.
All in all:
[Modified by 00SilverLS, 10:13 PM 6/3/2002]
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Re: Drag or Fmax (00SilverLS)
actually they made mine with a 2.5" pipe and it does clear my a/c. they only make it 2.25" if you want to attach to your stock cat. If you are going to a custom exhaust you should get the larger downpipe.
the dumptube design is a little weak but I don't think it affects things too much. I drove a car with an open dumptube last week and i didn't find it any louder than what my carsound/thermal exhaust sounds like. he had his stock cat on a thermal exhaust and it is quieter than my exhaust!
the dumptube design is a little weak but I don't think it affects things too much. I drove a car with an open dumptube last week and i didn't find it any louder than what my carsound/thermal exhaust sounds like. he had his stock cat on a thermal exhaust and it is quieter than my exhaust!
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