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Ran the civic out of gas and will not start

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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Default Ran the civic out of gas and will not start

well the title describes it I had a friend who ran out of gas and now he has put gas in the car it turns over but not start. I pulled the fuel rail with the injectors still in it turn car squirt squirt just like it should. Pull spark plugs sparks just like it should. All this from running out of gas.....? Looking for suggestions or WHO knows the answer. Very Frustrating.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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same happen to me it was the fuel pump
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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you think its just doesnt have anough
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Modified by lsvtec95 at 2:00 AM 5/30/2007
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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or ur pump failed..
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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This is a commom problem among fuel injected cars. It could be your pump, thats where I would check first.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93sihatchy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or ur pump failed.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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main relay?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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When you run a car out of fuel, you suck all the dirt and crap into the fuel pump sock which clogs it up, so check that. Sometimes it goes into the pump and kills it, at the very least you should also replace your fuel filter.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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looks like its time for a walbro
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Old May 29, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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The fact that you ran it out of gas may have soemthing to do with it, like if you run a pool filter without water, it will burn out without the resitance of the water flow, same might apply for a fuel pump if you run it, with only air passing thru it, it may burn it out. Just an idea.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Might need to prime the pump. Turn the key back and forth about 10 times *slowly* without turning it over. This will get the fuel you just put into the tank up to the injectors and builds fuel pressure.

also couldnt hurt to change the fuel filter.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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try push starting it
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Old May 29, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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I had this happen to me years ago and the car would not re-start because I had vapior locked the fuel pump. So I had to turn the ing on and off several times to get the pump to want to flow fuel I even loosened the bleed screw under the hood at the filter.

when I say turn ing on, I did not crank the car over, just turned the key enough to get the pump moving. Hope this helps and good luck! Oh one last thing I did end up needing a second bat because mine did not have have enough cranking amps by the time I was done. So some jumper cables and a buddies car may help. My bat was pretty darn old how ever.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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maybe it didnt totally run out maybe the fuel pump just shitted out on ya
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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the fuel pump uses the gas in your tank to cool it off. so chances are good your fuel pump might have just burnt out. but if it did i dont understand how your still getting fuel to spray out of the injectors.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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have you even checked for fuel?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you run a car out of fuel, you suck all the dirt and crap into the fuel pump sock which clogs it up, so check that. Sometimes it goes into the pump and kills it, at the very least you should also replace your fuel filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly .

This is the one reason why you should never let your fuel level get low. When it gets low (or in this case, out) it sucks up all the sand and debris 'n **** on the bottom of the tank and that cloggs your fuel filter and/or burns out your fuel pump.

Change the filter and pull the pump, chances are you screwed the sock filter on the pump as well (and it's probably better off if it's the original to change the fuel pump anyway).
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Old May 31, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Default Well Still not working

I have repalced the fuel pump now my next mission here is to try to prime the pump and loosen the bolt at the fuel filter and let some air out. to kinda bleed the line I guess. More suggestions would be great

Fuel Pump *
Prime *
Changer Fuel Filter *

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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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push start it
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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test the fuel pump
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGwhat!!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">push start it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do you keep saying this? If its not going to start with the starter its not going to start by pushing it

I would take the advice from everyone here...except push starting it.. And go from there. Also make sure there is no fuses blown. I seen this happen before with F-I cars. People run there cars out of gas and it does not start and they blame it on the alarm. Infintiy cars are the wores with this situration.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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irt and debris most likely stays at the bottom of the tank, the pump doesnt touch the bottom of the tank, most likly his pump failed on low gas meaning he probalby still had gas in it but it just failed leading him to belive he ran out
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team RS2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">irt and debris most likely stays at the bottom of the tank, the pump doesnt touch the bottom of the tank, most likly his pump failed on low gas meaning he probalby still had gas in it but it just failed leading him to belive he ran out </TD></TR></TABLE>

I assume then that you've never examined a cars fuel filter or fuel pump sock when it runs out of gas. If you did you'd know that running it out of gas WILL suck a ton of dirt and debris into these areas. The older more mileage on the car, the worse it is.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why do you keep saying this? If its not going to start with the starter its not going to start by pushing it

I would take the advice from everyone here...except push starting it.. And go from there. Also make sure there is no fuses blown. I seen this happen before with F-I cars. People run there cars out of gas and it does not start and they blame it on the alarm. Infintiy cars are the wores with this situration.</TD></TR></TABLE>

because i had this happened to me and it wouldnt start. and we decided to push start it and it fired up on the first attempt
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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If you read the top post the op says the car turns over fine. Push starting it will do the same thing as turning ove the car with the starter. So his problem will not lie with push starting it.
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